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Arizona decides to close most state parks  LA Times

Wrestling with a multibillion-dollar budget deficit, Arizona decided Friday to close nearly all of its state parks, including the famed Tombstone Courthouse and Yuma Territorial Prison.

The State Parks Board unanimously voted to close 13 parks by June 3. Eight others had already been closed, and the decision would leave nine open -- but only if the board can raise $3 million this year.

The action represents the largest closure of state parks in the nation, although several other states are considering similar moves.

"It's a dark day for the Arizona state parks system," said Renee Bahl, the system's executive director. "We have 65,000 acres around the state and the majority of them are closing."

The Arizona parks receive about 2.3 million visitors per year who bring about $266 million into the state, Bahl said.




As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 01:32:07 AM EST
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Now just the super-wealthy will have access to them ... the way things should be.  This is actually a good thing for the parks.  Instead of the thundering herds of humanity degrading them they'll only have to endure the favored few.  This BTW is the prototype for all future resources on the planet.  Enjoy.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 05:53:45 AM EST
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This is what you get when you spend 40 years demeaning the idea of public goods.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 06:01:52 AM EST
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I find the discourse at ET wonderfully ... sane ... comforting ... don't know the right word(s).  Any other sites you folks would recommend?  In English of course.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 06:10:02 AM EST
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Um, ... no?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 07:16:39 AM EST
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Vermont is SERIOUS about wanting to secede from the "morally corrupt EMPIRE"!  I LOVE IT!!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 07:29:32 AM EST
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Check this out.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 07:35:39 AM EST
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Unlikelier still is the idea that, if elected, the candidates could accomplish their goal, critics say.

"This is the triumph of hope over reality," said Garrison Nelson, a political science professor at the University of Vermont and a longtime observer of the state's political scene. "The whole movement was spawned by having George W. Bush as president. My guess is that with (Barack) Obama as president and this being Obama's second-best state, the wind has been taken out of their sails."

In fact, Obama's failure to close the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has fueled some of the candidates' positions.



En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 07:43:51 AM EST
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Old news? I found out about the Second Vermont Republic not long after I arrived in California 10 years ago...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 07:42:31 AM EST
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I am notoriously slow.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 07:46:35 AM EST
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Reminds me of The Free State of Jefferson of which I first became aware in the '90s from a sign on private property made of painted rocks on a hill side visible from I-5.


As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 08:02:07 PM EST
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scratches noggin...

if they bring in 266 million dollars a year, that's not chump change is it? can it really cost that much and more to 'ranger' them?

and what will happen to that land? ring fenced for cheyney style wildlife shootouts? rockefeller safaris?

or will it be left to the wannabe indians, dopegrowers, survivalists, etc. who will probably much prefer going there without uniformed rangers telling them what to do where.

it seems insane to throw away that income, which will probably rise as more aging boomers trade in the underwater house for the winnebago sunchaser lifestyle.

can't they run them cheaper?!? all those frickin uniforms, shiny badges and the latest SUVS i bet.

why not make it part of a new deal employment policy? it would give something of great value to underprivileged city kids to do some wilderness time, especially with some training in basic ecology. might see some serious perspective changing over time.

better to give it back to the indians, who were the best ecologists the continent ever had, right CH?

well snagged ARG.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 07:28:19 AM EST
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