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According to the Wikipedia, one link to France exists, another to the Netherlands is under construction, a third to Norway is proposed.

The existing link is 2gw and (again, according to the Wikipedia) supplies about 5% of UK electricity. So its a start, but not the capacity for full cross resource pooling along the lines proposed by some.

From Transmission and Distribution World, the link to the Netherlands is 1gw.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 12th, 2010 at 12:51:37 AM EST
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There's now an EU program to link all who border the North Sea, while at the same time strengthening the ability use to offshore wind more efficiently.  Some 9 countries have signed on already, and working groups and tech analysis are already in motion.

J had it here a while back.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jan 12th, 2010 at 02:53:47 AM EST
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Yes, I recall seeing it, but couldn't recall the details - hence the recourse to The Wikipedia.

I presume that is the "proposed" UK/Norway link.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 12th, 2010 at 11:19:35 AM EST
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What the Brits should do is build lots of cross-channel power lines, lots of pumped hydro in Scotland and use the surplus nuclear power in France, which has to do load-following because of lack of nightly and weekend demand. I'd love to see a feasability study on that.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Jan 12th, 2010 at 12:04:14 PM EST
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How much existing hydro is there in Scotland? Its often far less capital intensive to add reverse cycle capacity to a conventional hydro facility than to build modular pumped hydro from scratch, though as this source notes, since the generator must be below the water level of the lower outlet, tunneling is often required, while a modular pumped hydro would have the turbine designed into its lower reservoir from the outset.

One of the appealing things about pumped hydro storage is the responsiveness - that same source notes that as a spinning reserve, powered by the conventional hydro facility using the same upper reservoir, as able to come online in 15 seconds. And AFAIR there is a pumped hydro installation somewhere in the UK that can reverse from storage to power generation in a handful of minutes.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 12th, 2010 at 12:49:12 PM EST
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by JeroenMostert on Tue Jan 12th, 2010 at 02:14:25 PM EST
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Yes, that's the one precisely - Dinorwig, which can take a generator from standing still to full load in under a minute and a half.

That form of storage on a grid will be especially useful when volatile energy sources in the portfolio are running below average demand, as they allow energy to be brought in over the grid to grid HVDC links in off-peak periods and stored for use during peak demands.

The Wikipedia mentions that it, too, was originally planned for use with shifting nuclear generated electricity from off-peak to on-peak, and with the switch in nuclear plans a sister plant at Exmoor was never built.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 12th, 2010 at 06:42:51 PM EST
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