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says it all.  That word invokes Aristide as a panacea, disclaimers or not.
by santiago on Tue Jan 19th, 2010 at 09:29:41 AM EST
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You have a point, but for me the term encompasses the moderate and basic social progress in the quotation.

fairleft
by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Tue Jan 19th, 2010 at 10:41:41 AM EST
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Ah, so you are reading it into the piece. "Xism", to me, implies the position espoused by X. It says nothing about whether X him or herself has the personal qualities of a saint.

It is, indeed, absurd to think that the ability to express more or less what ought to be done automatically comes with either the ability to bring it about, or with the characteristics of sainthood - and normally, the ability to bring it about and the characteristics of sainthood are mutually exclusive.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 19th, 2010 at 01:12:54 PM EST
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There's a number of issues here.  One is that when a political leader -- that is, someone with the demonstrated power of a large following -- expresses what ought to be done, it is not at all absurd to believe that a group acting under that leader's name has the ability to at least make a good attempt to bring it about, for better or for worse.  

But there is another issue here with Aristide as as a political leader which calls into question his credentials to represent anything like the "Aristidism" invoked by the author. There are just too many leftist Haitians -- people at known hangouts for the world's progressive diasporas, such as New York's New School for Social Research, that actively opposed Aristide and did more to bring about his overthrow in 2004 than the US did by not intervening on his behalf. It could be, as you seem to suggest, that there are progressive ideals which go beyond the person himself. But it could just as easily be true that those ideals were fictions of political propaganda in the first place, given the poor outcomes when Aristide was given a chance.  

Remember, not intervening on behalf of someone is not the same kind of imperialism as intervening directly to remove someone.  The former requires that the subject fail on his own first, and Aristide's projects appear to have failed largely on their own merits before any blame can be leveled at the US for not intervening a second time to keep him in power.

by santiago on Tue Jan 19th, 2010 at 02:55:42 PM EST
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Overstated. I don't mean to imply that American foreign policy did not contribute to Aristide's failures, but I do want to point out that Aristide and his projects were as unpopular with the Haitian left as they were with the right at the time of his 2004 ouster.
by santiago on Tue Jan 19th, 2010 at 05:02:17 PM EST
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... that I doubt Aristide's competency to be the President that successfully brings "Aristidisme" into being, but on the other hand in the circumstances of the late 1980's, it could well have been that there was no such thing as sufficient competence to bring it into being.

The fact of a set of people opposing a person remaining in power is certainly not necessarily a rejection of the program - especially after such a troubled and controversial Presidency as Aristide had - since it can as easily be a rejection of the person as a competent executive.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 19th, 2010 at 08:11:09 PM EST
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by santiago on Wed Jan 20th, 2010 at 10:38:36 AM EST
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By that reasoning, the term "Republicanism" could be seen as representing the republican party as panacea.
There are important issues here, and we're losing them in trivia.
It makes little sense to quote any American, French or British mainstream publication, even one as prestigious as the New York Review on any subject relating to Haiti, without a thorough and probably futile attempt to separate the conventional political wisdom from the useful facts. It's equally difficult to know much about Chaves's Venezuela, since it's on the US death list, and so it's leaders need to be dehumanized, so we can then "rescue" it's poor, misled, helpless people.
The history of Haiti, once lush and lovely, rich in resources and potential, is a panorama of merciless predation, with the most spectacular being the French insistence on Haiti's repayment of "Damages" asessed for the illegal theft of property-- the Haitian people themselves. Thus the freed slaves were forced to pay their opressors for the right to be free- even after attaining it through force of arms, and the loss of almost a third of their population. And they paid- thanks to the embargo, it was that or starve.
 Little has changed.
The IMF instituting the utterly discredited but now sadly traditional terms of the "structural adjustment loan" is just the latest insult..
The US involvement is like so many others- on an individual level, many kind and brave workers and soldiers risk their lives for the Haitian people- while the traditional policy machine formed during and schooled by a century of predation turns their gift into first a photo-op for the fig leaf, and then a tool of dominance. Only an utterly ahistorical person could be unaware of this oft-repeated ongoing dynamic, it seems to me.

 Haiti today is the clearest possible example of the end-point of the policies of predation with which the region has had to cope. There but through- what? an accident of inattention?- goes the rest.

Aristide "became unpopular" (do we really know what local opinion really was--or is? How? From whom?) because almost from the first day, he was thwarted and sabotaged by the regional predator. Like the Sandinistas or the Bolivarians, his every policy attempt, every nascent success was a threat to the world view those who still think of Haitians as quasi-human, or as cheap labor, in need of some stern paternal discipline.

And lest you think I speak from a comfortably safe haven of academic debate, I lived on the island of Hispaniola for a significant part of my 13 years in the area, in Puerto Plata, Gonaves, and Santo Domingo. I did reforestation research at Cabo Roho, built fishing boats at Puerto plata, and taught composites technology in Santiago.

Thanks for this, Fairleft. But Haiti is a story so heartbreakingly cruel I can almost not bear to discuss it.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Wed Jan 20th, 2010 at 03:29:10 AM EST
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