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with national politics in the US.  That's the only right way to read Dr. Dean's polling data.  It was an election based almost entirely on local dynamics: An uncharismatic democratic candidate against a surprisingly compelling Republican one.  Infighting within the Massachusetts Democratic Party between the the western part of the state and the Bostontonians.  And the fact that people just don't like it when politicians play games with their votes -- the whole shenanigans about changing the law first to prevent a Republican governor from appointing Sen. Kerry's replacement had he won the 2004 Presidential election, and then changing it back when it served Democratic interests didn't sit well with people at all.  

And although the Democrats lost a filibuster proof majority, it changes nothing at the national level -- Democrats weren't using that super-majority advantage anyway.  With a majority House and a 59 seat majority in the Senate, the Democrats still retain hegemonic power to set national policy. If they can't do it, the only reason is incompetence, and right now a synonym for incompetence spells something close to "Harry Reid."

by santiago on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 02:26:48 PM EST
You can't really argue with this:

I'm finding this almost surreal. I don't believe it's possible for bright people to be so blinkered and inept that they can't push through the legislation they want.

It would be like Labour in the UK in 1997 deciding that it couldn't do a damn thing unless all the Lib Dems agreed - not for any good procedural reason, but in the interests of some entirely imaginary vision of bipartisanship.

More cynically, it looks like kabuki. The point of the exercise is not to change anything much, while protesting otherwise.

For example, Obama can grandstand all he wants about shredding the banks now that he no longer has his super-majority, because he's - supposedly - no longer in a position to change anything.

Hands will be wrung and apologies will be made, but what can he do, the poor man?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 02:39:43 PM EST
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If the Democrats had any spine they would make the Republicans filibuster popular legislation. This is an election year, fer chrissakes. They need to make the Republican senators up for reelection feel threatened.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 04:33:03 PM EST
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The Democrats have plenty of spine - against voters and popular opinion.

When you're bought and paid for, finding that spine is easy.

I'm not even sure that someone like Grayson isn't just playing the game - grand-stand on dKos, and watch the cash roll in.

It's impossible to tell if there's anyone with any genuine progressive sincerity in the Senate any more.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 05:13:57 PM EST
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But at least then make it a real fillibuster - force them to stand on their feet and talk 24/7 for a few months of necessary - reading the bible out loud if they want to. Spring a surprise cloture vote at all hours of the day and night to make sure all 41 have to be there all the time. At least that will keep them out of mischief elsewhere.  

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 05:30:47 PM EST
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obama seems like a finger in the dike of public opinion swelling so much it bursts the walls.

j-u-s-t long enough to finish looting the husk of the economy, then they'll slap in some hard man to keep the peeps browbeaten and accepting their new reality.

horribly inevitable feel to this scenario, the fix is in, just as i saw in kerry's eyes when he rolled over and let bush the terrible hijack the election.

ignore the rhetoric, ignore the campaign fever, what's left? PTB stooge, that's what...

i hope to hell i'm 1000% wrong about this, nothing would give me more pleasure that to eat my chapeau, but my slender sliver of hope is shaved down to transparent.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 04:58:33 PM EST
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Yeah. Even Paul Krugman is giving up.
But how do you keep the peeps in line, in a zero-sum punishment culture? Give them enemies, villains.

When the USSR self-destructed, some of us in the wild sociological community wondered how the US would satisfy the addiction to scapegoats, enemies---and it was US.War on drugs, war on crime. And look where that got us. But, in the interest of national unity, the US needs an external villain- now, more than ever.

Any nominations?

Beware lest YOU end up on the enemies list.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 11:00:13 PM EST
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i think the PTB has plumb run out of villains...

trotting out phantom osama is losing its fear market, but no fear they'll try and pin a target on someone.

the problem is they are outnumbered, and they know it, as they also know how their international star would tumble if they went all medieval more than they already do. only china imprisons more of its own!

they are painted into a corner, so they have to go through the motions, but if the abuse of the public goes too far, everyone knows there are enough hotheads to throw themselves into the front lines, and the mess would be the crappiest PR in the world, especially after the decades of sanctimony about human rights.

what if other countries boycotted the USA in protest at their internal brutality?

it could happen, if they choose the pariah path. what are they going to do, anklebracelet liberal grannies? of all the social environments for a violent coup and martial law, the USA would be far the messiest, when you consider the amount of hardware, and even a slice of the population that is so brainwashed that violence is the solution to all problems, (if not the summum bonum of human endeavour), that they will cheer it on from behind their tvs. they can't wait for the blood to flow.

i blame this on the moronic level of tv and junk food, but it's too late for diagnosis now, it's damage limitation time...

turning the kyber pass into an ashtray would only keep the peeps ra-ra-ing for a while. sooner or later they'll have to face the music, and locking up the nicest, friendliest, most constructive people in the community, just because they have dissent on their minds, will call for a complete re-engineering of what it means to be an american TM, involving airbrushing out all its founding fathers for a start, all its hoariest myths.

there aren't enough thugs to lock up everyone who 'thinks different', at a certain point the sheer absurdity will cause the public to disarm these budding nazis, for everyone's good. they can only go so far.

remember the whole world is watching now... we've got your backs.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 at 03:46:37 PM EST
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Hope so.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 02:28:16 AM EST
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