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The worst outcome for 2012 would be for Obama to be elected with a Republican congress.  He would be a poster boy putting an acceptable veneer on quasi fascist regime.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:46:00 AM EST
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How is the current situation worse than 1994?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:53:27 AM EST
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It's not - accept that things have gone a long way downhill since 1994, and then just as it looks like Obama is beginning to re-float the boat at least to some degree - it gets holed below the waterline again.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 11:18:42 AM EST
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I mean Clinton failed to get Hillary's heath reform past the Congress and the Gingrich's Contract with America took control for the Republicans. Is Obama's record going to be any worse than Clinton's?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 23rd, 2010 at 10:31:49 AM EST
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Agreed that would be nasty, but the Chris Matthews interview and more than a few other bits suggest a worse (and rather likely) outcome:

--The old-school, failing mainstream media cling to the economic and political models they grew up with, leaving them no real allys but the right- their natural partners, (parents?)anyway:

--The scripted and funded noise machines like the tea baggers, together with the above media continue to succeed in making it appear as if progressive politics in general are discredited policy, in the public eye.

Then what? This scenario does not spell success for the GOP, I don't think- the people who coalesced behind their imagined Obama still want real change, and they are in the majority, I think.

Media vs. Reality?

Think of those flags that keep reappearing at the rallys- the ones that push for a national partition along ideological lines--secession.
Then there's Texas. Poor Texas.
A giant nation so polarized, so lost in a morass of pandering, manipulative bullshit it still swamps the University of Chicago with entry applications.

Smells like civil war, almost. Or is that just Darwin  burning?  

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:42:34 PM EST
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secession

The only near term destabilization I can envision is bankrupt states making noise over federal tax dollar redistribution. Following that, an independent Texas would be immediately poorer, actually.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 at 04:44:33 AM EST
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