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Calling his points spurious, outright garbage, and sound but not impressive are, again, all your opinion, not fact.

You have made the same comment to me in this thread. It is most certainly true. So much so that it doesn't warrant constant repetition. The state of our understanding of human affairs is such that what we can establish as facts are usually insufficient for decisions that are applicable to the most important issues. So we organize these facts around theories and generate "beliefs" which are the basis for most of our actions. But we need to always be aware that our beliefs are, at best, tentative and be prepared to revise them on the basis of new information.

These sorts of "beliefs" are qualitatively different from those of the religious, who crave certainty and too often believe they have it. But yes, my characterization of Obama is an opinion based on many observations and impressions that have been organized into a working belief. As are yours and those of rootless.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jan 24th, 2010 at 10:41:18 PM EST
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Well, perhaps if people would stop throwing around their opinions as though they're fact and using words like "The Idol" as descriptors, then I wouldn't have to keep pointing this out.  

We're not anywhere NEAR a consensus of 'impressions that have been organized into a working belief' on any of these opinions, so until we are, those of you who have hardened your opinion into belief are going to have to expect arguments from us non-believers.  And until you stop stating your opinions like they're the accepted working belief, I'll keep reminding you that they're not.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 24th, 2010 at 11:03:06 PM EST
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They are my working beliefs. Take them as such. And I would never presume to speak for you, or Jerome, or Mig or Jake or.....  Putting IMO after everything I say gets a little tiresome.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jan 24th, 2010 at 11:56:43 PM EST
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