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Hillary might have run even stronger, especially after the GFC hit in the fall. Obama was wavering until then and it could be argued that McCain more self-destructed than was knocked out by Obama. Obama just had to look presentable. He didn't even really seize the issue then. But he could and did rely on people projecting their hopes onto him.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jan 23rd, 2010 at 11:12:00 PM EST
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Well, you are a disappointed fan of Hillary Clinton, a woman I first met when she was working for the antilabor law firm in Little Rock.  You and I do not have a common language to discuss politics if you think Hillary Clinton and Mark Penn were a superior alternative to Obama.
by rootless2 on Sat Jan 23rd, 2010 at 11:24:55 PM EST
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"Fan" is your characterization. But I do think she is tougher than he is, and she has been through the fire once on health care and, I believe, would have been more forceful both there and with the banks. I voted for Bill twice, but was not as disgusted with him after '94 as I have been this last several months with Obama. At least under him and without supermajorities the democrats passed tax increases on the rich.  And, honestly, I did not appreciate just what a disaster NAFTA would be. I am no fan of Mark Penn. I do like James Carville. Were there any pro-labor law firms in Arkansas in the '70s?

By the way, my father helped organize and was the first president of a local of the Operating Engineers in the oilfields of northern Oklahoma in the mid '50s. But I left Oklahoma in 1963 and didn't return, even to visit,  until 1991. When I moved to Arkansas in Jan. 2006 I had not been here since 1954, when I visited the homestead and farm where my paternal grandmother had been born and raised in the Boston Mountains in Washington County, western Arkansas. I spent my adult life in Arizona and Los Angeles. Most of the contractors for whom I worked in Los Angeles were union contractors and though engineering was a non-union position, the hourneyman electronics tech set the floor for engineering positions, so I do know something about unions and consider them a great plus, faults notwithstanding.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jan 24th, 2010 at 02:15:52 AM EST
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There was a pro-labor law firm in Arkansas.
by rootless2 on Sun Jan 24th, 2010 at 10:23:01 AM EST
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Did it have multiple partners or was it a one man operation?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jan 24th, 2010 at 01:44:01 PM EST
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