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The code may not change, but bits of it are switched on or off within an individual organism to produce different types of 'building' (e.g. protein manufacture). I'm not sure if the switching is retained when the code is passed on. I guess not, otherwise the most ancient genome bits (i.e pre-homo sapiens) would not have survived.

Language mutates in several different ways. Sound mutation (e.g. the hardening or softening of consonants) takes place over a predictable generational period - accurate enough to be able to trace the historical beginnings of mutations. Words, as units of meaning, also reveal the precise time of two languages' earlier meeting, with meanings changed or differences adopted (loan words) or pidginized. Word elision also appears to increase with time.

Structural changes such as in sentence construction seem to be the slowest. A proto-IE speaker might possible recognize some branches of the modern IE family of languages.

What interests me is that the study of genomic mutation, language mutation, and archeology can now be cross-referenced to more accurately date migrations, however caused.

OTOH ATinNM will no doubt come swanning in and point out the inaccuracy of my insights ;-) He is, after all, Uncle Babel...

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 10:59:23 AM EST
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Am I supposed to "Black Swan," "White Swan," or "Leda and the Swan" swanning in?
by ATinNM on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 12:38:54 PM EST
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You'll know what to do when the time comes ;-) Trust me...

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 01:05:00 PM EST
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funny pictures of dogs with captions

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 01:26:56 PM EST
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The basic difference between language evolution and species evolution is that there is no selective pressure on languages : the survival of a language is pretty much independant of its words, structures, etc.

And linguistic evolution in the future is not really predictable beyond a few already started sound changes.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 02:16:44 PM EST
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I would disagree strongly with the assertion there is no selective pressure on languages. That's all there is!!

The feedback system for the exchange of meaning ensures constant pressure on language. In cultures where mass media saturation is high, these pressures are all powerful.

In cultures exposed for the first time, on a broad front, with another culture, these pressure are also powerful.

The only thing one can predict for the future is further elision of word and phrase length, because the process of mass acceptance of a shortened version of the meaning is now so rapid.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 02:47:45 PM EST
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Mass media exposure has only existed for a very short time, and has frozen languages (by lowering diversity) more than anything else. Shortening of words and sentences ? not necessarily. Languages with short words create multisyllables, sooner or later.

Again, as long as the language can express advanced thoughts, how it expresses them is of no importance. All language, given enough vocabulary, can express those thoughts ; the "evolution" of language is never that a language dies because it can't express thoughts that another can, unlike biological evolution. There is no "fitness" of languages.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 11:51:07 PM EST
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Evolutionary fitness is not about "change or go extinct" either (though such methapors were common in the popularisation of natural selection that also led to Social Darwinism). So, while I'd agree with you that most language change is not adaptation to the environment, the shortening of words or the import of words to describe f.e. artifacts of newly acqwuired technologies (from the plowshare to the cell phone) could be considered adaptation.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 03:27:49 AM EST
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The thing is, evolution of species is a specific kind of evolution with specific conditions. Thinking that it is, and has to be, similar to the evolution of other things, such as social mores, economic systems, languages, leads to oversimplifications and errors.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 06:27:20 AM EST
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