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Europe Miffed at Obama's Decision to Skip Summit - NYTimes.com

PARIS -- President Obama's decision to skip a United States-European Union summit meeting scheduled for Madrid in May has predictably upset European officials, who suggested on Tuesday that the summit itself will now be postponed, possibly to the autumn. Readers' Comments

In addition to the palpable sense of insult among European officials, there was a growing concern that Europe is being taken for granted and losing importance in American eyes compared to the rise of a newly truculent China.

European Union officials found out about the decision through the news media late on Monday, senior European officials said Tuesday morning. The Obama decision was first reported on the Web site of The Wall Street Journal.

The Spanish prime minister, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, who is scheduled to arrive in Washington this week on a visit, was described as angry and embarrassed, and European officials said there was a set of high-level diplomatic exchanges overnight.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 04:17:35 PM EST
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This is excellent news.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 05:30:35 PM EST
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that he's not coming? why?

i think it makes europe look a little foolish, not hat he skips it, but the reactions...why take it so personally, i doubt he has any desire to snub europe, but these over-reactions from europeans make us look a bit pathetic.

giving the yanks more power, in a way, than they are already abusing already.

a little more isolationasism would do them (and us) good, actually.

no offence to americans here either, it's the government and its expectations that the rest of the planet is some kind of rudderless ship without their gripping the helm that rubs me wrong...

~Government budget deficits are not nearly as dangerous as the deficits we have created in vital and complex natural systems.~ Naomi Klein.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 06:31:40 PM EST
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European leaders thought the problem was Bush.

Now that the eminently sensible and progressive new Leader of the Free World they have been fawning over for the last 18 months has shown himself to be no less of a problem, maybe European leaders will be cured of their Atlanticism.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 06:59:15 PM EST
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Damn, I was too late in building my reinforced umbrella factory. Now the people with perfect foresight and information and access to infinitely deep and perfectly competitive liquidity markets will be able to capture this lucrative market.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 07:07:36 PM EST
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Not to worry, in Spain the shitstorm is over Zapatero's lack of charisma or stature depending on who you ask. We take everything myopically personally.

But, really, after Copenhagen and now this, why on Earth should Europe continue fighting Obama's land war in Asia?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 07:11:44 PM EST
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Especially after THIS BLUNDER!

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 07:33:50 PM EST
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Thanks for that, I haven't been following Juan Cole for years since I left the US, but this is very good!
Does it matter? One sometimes see Americans dismiss Pakistan as "small" or "unimportant." Think again. Pakistan is the world's sixth-largest country by population (170 million),just after Brazil (200 million). It is as big as California, Oregon and Washington state rolled together. Pakistan's 550,000-man military is among the best-trained and best-equipped in the global South. Pakistan has within it a middle class with a Western-style education and way of life (automobiles, access to internet and international media) of some 37 million-- roughly 5 million families. (Pakistan has over 5 million automobiles now and is an emerging auto producer and market, with auto production at 16 percent of its manufaturing sector). If we go by local purchasing power, it is the world's 27th largest economy. It is a nuclear power with a sophisticated if small scientific establishment, and produced a Nobelist in physics.

Gates went to Pakistan to emphasize to Islamabad that the US was not again going to abandon it and Afghanistan, as it had in the past. Pakistan, he wanted to say, is now a very long-term ally of Washington. He hoped for cooperation against the Haqqani, Taliban and Hizb-i Islami guerrillas. He wanted to allay conspiracy theories about US mercenary armies crawling over Pakistan, occasionally blowing things up (and then blaming the explosions on Pakistanis) in order to destabilize the country and manipulate its policies.

The message his mission inadvertently sent was that the US is now increasingly tilting to India and wants to put it in charge of Afghanistan security; that Pakistan is isolated; that he is pressuring Pakistan to take on further counter-insurgency operations against Taliban in the Northwest, which the country flatly lacks the resources to do; and that Pakistani conspiracy theories about Blackwater were perfectly correct and he had admitted it.



En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 07:42:55 PM EST
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Ditto for US policy toward Latin America.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 07:30:12 PM EST
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Actually, I take this back.  This is good news!
cutting military and police support.


"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 07:54:40 PM EST
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That train sailed two decades ago.

The last generation of Latin American leaders haven't been noted for viewing the Big Northern Neighbour with particularly rose-tinted glasses.

Having the threat of a CIA assassination, a US-sponsored coup d'etat or the United State's ultimate instrument of diplomacy perpetually hanging over your head tends to clarify your thoughts on such matters.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 at 09:09:55 AM EST
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[Moustache of Understanding Alert]

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 at 09:29:07 AM EST
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Austin Powers, actually [mildly NSFW, at least if your boss is a prude]:

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 at 03:57:03 PM EST
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This is all about domestic concerns.  There are obviously huge issues within the United States right now.
by paving on Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 at 02:46:46 PM EST
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