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Well, I've had connectivity since lunch - over a 3G modem which works if I hang it from the attic ceiling <sigh> - but I haven't been able to access ET from my desktop browsers.

I'm perplexed:

  • Neither Firefox nor Safari would let me in. Firefox running in Parallels on Windows did for a moment, then stopped. Turning off images and javascript made no difference. Nor caches.
  • Lynx and curl - text clients - would allow me in from the same machine, so it's not a TCP/IP problem.
  • I can get in now, and nothing I know of has changed.
  • My iPhone could get in on when connected over EDGE (2G) but not when connected on 3G.
  • All that time I could get to BT, so it doesn't seem to be a server problem per se. ET and BT use same server and database system. I don't see any obvious reason they'd behave differently.

It could be freaky DNS behaviour, but that would mean different subsystems on the Mac were using different DNS. This is not impossible: I've never really looked into exactly how resolution works in Mac OS X because I've never cared.

Anyone got any better ideas?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 10:57:44 AM EST
Weirdness happening everywhere today. Couldn't get into ET at all for a while, had some DNS errors and broadband drop outs, and the BBC news site is saying that it's been having technical problems too.

I suspect it's evil spirits, or weather, or both.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:13:27 AM EST
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Well, I get complaints from people every do often about not being able to get it, so I'm hoping this is the same problem they're having and now I have a chance to diagnose, maybe.

Or maybe it is the weather.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:18:18 AM EST
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Its got to be a server problem, if you look at eurotrib via nslookup on command line, then the dns record converts almost instantaneously. (Booman also downloads straight away, where eurotrib seems to be throwing a 9-12 second delay in serving pages back)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:21:50 AM EST
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But curl and lynx are responding immediately. Safari and Firefox aren't slow, they're not happening. My problem may not be the same as yours, of course.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:35:39 AM EST
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well its not so much slow, more theres a pause, which if its long enough, could be causing things to time out. I get a similar delay with IE8, the initial DNS connection and handshaking happen, then nothing. after that the page actually turns up 10-12 seconds later  (if our problems are actually similar)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:51:42 AM EST
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Corresponds to mine. Firefox gives me a "Waiting for eurotrib.com" message during the pause.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:04:42 PM EST
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For an hour or two before your comment I had 10-15 second pauses before ET came back on any command, e.g.: preview, post, click on a comment I wish to view on "My comments" etc.  Connection to ET was not so much a problem, or I didn't notice/wasn't bothered. I run XP and, as of this AM Firefox .17? (latest & greatest and it didn't even ask, just updated and informed.)

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 09:48:25 PM EST
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it didn't even ask, just updated and informed

Go to Tools->Options->Advanced->Updates and change the setting from Automatically update to Ask me what I want to do.

If you want to know the version number, Help->About Mozilla Firefox.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 01:56:05 AM EST
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It shows Firefox 3.0.17  "Firefox for Google Packs" ?!
I had Firefox 3.5.15? before and they used to ask.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 10:15:06 AM EST
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No problem whatsoever on this side of the Atlantic...

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:36:34 AM EST
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Nor here, at the moment.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:39:39 AM EST
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here's fine, been out all afternoon though.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:46:20 PM EST
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A number of people report sporadic access problems with Firefox. It may be due to their connections, or to FF 3.5, since I never get locked out with Firefox 3.0.

But ET has got noticeably slower for quite some time now, there's a wait for each page. With Safari under Windows, it's barely quicker. IE brings it up about like Safari.

BT comes up immediately in any of these three browsers.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:44:27 AM EST
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This whole thread is strange, as today I had to notify techs at Gerson Lehrman Group, where i do a fair amount of wind consulting, that i haven't been able to access the site for 24 hours, with the same symptoms as reported here.

of course, as soon as i sent the email, i was able to log into the site, without having changed a thing.

It's going to be really funny when the net goes down for a coupla days. Ummm, wrong word, funny.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:13:29 PM EST
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Mercury retrograde <hides>

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:20:19 PM EST
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Have you heard about Oil City confidential ?



keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:30:40 PM EST
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I look forward to that.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:52:41 PM EST
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Interesting, Im looking forward to this too



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:21:58 PM EST
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Hmm, he seems reminiscent of Cap'n Jack Sparrow. Maybe Johhny Depp shoulda done him as Ian Dury instead of Keef.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:36:02 PM EST
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He's the cinematic pirate of the next decade.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:37:49 PM EST
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Met him once (friend of a Walthamstowe film school colleague at the time of Kilburns) Seemed like a pussycat to me, but one swallow...He did appreciate irreverence - though that was the patois of the time. Same guy also knew Viv Stanshall - very funny but quaint - and Legs Larry, with whom I had some amusing incidents, especially involving outdoor festivals - aah the Summer of Love. But no homoerotic relationship should be deduced. At that time musicians and filmmakers were in a virginal dance of potential cooperative creativity.

It should be remembered that, at the time, movie cameras had only been recently freed from cumbersomeness by Monsieur Coutant. Suddenly movie technology could encompass spatial improvization.

It was of course our old friend serendipity. Music on film, previously, had always been a performance specifically for the camera, or within the physical limitations of a performance on stage, live or in a studio. But essentially rehearsed. The Sixties was the first time that Rock'n'Roll could just happen and be filmed. Where the presence of cameras was less interesting than the event, and thus cameras were more invisible - or deprioritized.

That, to me, is documentary film. That what is happening within the frame is more important than the fact that it is being filmed. Camera as pen. Hard to give rules about what is 'documentary' - but most people used to know it when they saw it.

Reality TV is not documentary. The presence of cameras is priority number one. The 4th wall is constantly acknowledged.

Documentary as a genre is as 'false' as Reality TV. In both, 'reality' is constructed in the editing room. I'm not saying one is better, just that they should not be confused. They both observe behaviours, but documentary has much more intellectual insight. imho.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:26:16 PM EST
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Posted that a couple of weeks ago.

You must have been otherwise engaged!

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:33:56 PM EST
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I remembered that picture at the fornt, but it was a night when I was having connection issues (rain doth make it crackly) so I wasn't doing youtubes for a while. Must have missed it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:37:42 PM EST
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The odd thing is that I was on the other side of the "tracks" in Essex, I never really knew what was going on down on canvey Island.

I 'spose I was too posh, but I never went south of the A127 ('tween Billericay and basildon). Too uncivilised and dangerous, they're right in that trailer, there was always an undercurrent of violence; now we'd describe it as chavvy.

And Canvey was the fag end of the Essex universe, when you were the lowest of the low, when even Basildon or dagenham didn't want you, you went to Canvey. Reject Island. All run down council estates and abandoned, the UK equivalent of a trailer park. You didn't go there unless you had business and there was no good business to be had on the island.

Back then when the refineries were there, there were so many volatiles leached into the ground from bad practices that it actually had permafrost. It had one bridge on and it might as well have had a skull and crossbones flag on it for all the welcome you got. and always, the Essex skies looked down. Cold and hard and craxy.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:50:35 PM EST
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