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I've just noticed that I'm referring specifically to elected political representatives whereas your reference is regarding those who go into civil service? Correct me if I'm wrong.

I know plenty of talented civil servants, but some very obstructive (or just plain useless) ones too.  The remit is different and it is up to politicians to choose how much they rely on the civil servants and how much they use their own brains to think through the issues and provide leadership.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 1st, 2010 at 10:17:21 AM EST
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I was referring to civil servants indeed but I do believe that the same thing applies to elected representatives. Without trying to undermine in any way the amalgamation of virtues and qualities (honesty, integrity, reliability, responsibility, kindness to name a few) which undoubtedly any MP should be an embodiment of, I still believe that MPs with degrees in politics / public policy are better able to adequately address and respond to the needs / problems of their constituencies. Having completed bachelor and / or master programmes in relevant subjects, these people obviously boast deep and well-grounded understanding of policy frameworks, policy evaluation, theories, policy stages and cycles, etc. That said they are well aware of the challenges ahead and the constraints, within which they have to operate while pursuing any policy objective.
by hitchhiker on Mon Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:01:53 AM EST
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True, and this is one of the reasons why I am now doing a social policy degree, so I understand the policy formation process much better. I have to say that I don't think that alone would place me well in politics.  It merely strengthens the concepts I already hold in my head built upon by experience, and provides me with a means for articulating those concepts and the tools for deconstructing them.

But one thing I have noticed with my Open University degree is that they are very progressive in the way they define issues and teach social policy.  I imagine other courses could choose differing ideologies as a base for discussion and I have heard complaints from people who think the OU course is too 'left wing'. ie the examples used to critique different theories and perspectives and conclusions drawn within the structure of the course may differ depend on the leanings of the authors of the syllabus.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:20:47 AM EST
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I think what I'm really trying to say is that although it is important to understand the process and how politics works, you still need personal reference points to understanding the ultimate impact of policy on real lives.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:23:37 AM EST
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Many swedish politicians has degrees in politics / public policy but it does not seem to have any effect then giving them a set of tropes in common with the civil servants. Tropes like "direct democracy is bad because who do you fire if the people change their mind?", "any decision made by an elected body is democratic", "single issue movements is irresponsible".

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 at 09:48:50 AM EST
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