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Sovereign credit can finance an economy in which unemployment is unknown, with wages constantly rising to provide consumer buying power to prevent production overcapacity.

With forever increasing production on our unlimited planet...

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 at 06:12:14 PM EST
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Increasing production of renewables might not be a bad thing.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 at 07:10:50 PM EST
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... production of renewables is evidently a bad thing. Constantly, incessantly increasing production of any thing, and any thing-consuming service, is evidently a bad thing.

Its perhaps a bit of a shell game to respond to someone pointing out that the picture in "with wages constantly rising to provide consumer buying power to prevent production overcapacity" is physically infeasible by pointing to what is a need to increase the share of renewables in production.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:47:45 AM EST
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Well-spotted. There are some incoherences in what Liu writes because he's an empty-world economist still married to the post-WWII productivist/consumerist model, and to GDP.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:21:14 AM EST
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Absolutely.

Liu sees the monolithic corporate State as part of the solution, rather than as a twin of the monolithic Corporates operating for shareholder profit, and both suffering from the curse of managerialism

But then he's not unique in seeing the State in that light.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 07:11:56 AM EST
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With forever increasing production on our unlimited planet...

Not necessary. With equal income distribution, when people earn more, they work less and produce less..

by kjr63 on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 07:16:07 PM EST
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