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wouldn't the EU or even Germany stepping in to guarantee Greek debts blow up Goldmans,then?
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Depending on Goldman's position it could damage them, but Goldman may no longer even hold the bonds, it may just have the CDS's. And if the valuation of those CDSs is left in Goldman's hands then they can still tighten the garrote. The best action that could be taken would be to declare CDSs un-enforceable except by the holders of the bonds around which they are written. But, as a point of fact, what EU agency has the authority to take such actions?


As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Feb 9th, 2010 at 11:10:36 AM EST
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Financial regulation is largely vested with the individual states.

However, if the Commission suspects that Goldman or any other player has cornered the market, or is attempting to do so, it is perfectly within its mandate to bring the competition and inner market hammer down, like it did on Intel and Microsoft. Given the - ah - less than perfectly transparent, shall we say, nature of these instruments, it is possible that simply making vigorous noise about punitive measures will suffice to stimulate a run on the target.

That might be a more productive venue.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Feb 9th, 2010 at 06:37:04 PM EST
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if the Commission suspects that Goldman or any other player has cornered the market, or is attempting to do so, it is perfectly within its mandate to bring the competition and inner market hammer down, like it did on Intel and Microsoft
There is a better example - I think it may have gone under your radar when it happened...

Times Online [UK]: Citigroup agrees to pay £14m over bond scandal (June 29, 2005)

Last August Citigroup sent shockwaves through the eurobond market after executing a series of huge bond trades, which destabilised the market and for a moment sent prices plunging. By exploiting the price moves and the ensuing panic, Citigroup traders made profits of £9.96 million in the course of the day. The bank's reconfigured computer program, designed to stun the market with a blast of 188 simultaneous sell orders, was known by the traders as "Dr Evil".
Also here:
The market was thrown into confusion on 2 August 2004 when Citigroup pushed through EUR11 billion in paper sales in two minutes over the automated MTS platform. As the value of futures contracts fell and traders moved to cover their positions, Citigroup re-entered the market and bought back about EUR4 billion of the paper at cheaper prices. The strategy was dubbed Dr Evil, after the Austin Powers character, in an internal e-mail circulated by the traders.

Immediately afterwards MTS moved to impose temporary limits on the value and volume any one dealer can push through the system at a time. MTS also suspended Citigroup from trading on its bond network for one month after finding that the UK bank breached certain market regulations.

The UK's Financial Services Authority later fined Citigroup £13.9 million following its investigation into the controversial trading.

Unfortunately the Commission did nothing about that particular incident...

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 9th, 2010 at 06:42:30 PM EST
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What is it with trading desks and code names? Enron had memos floating around about schemes with such attractive names as "Death Star" and "Fat Man."

I'm sure these traders have a lot of fun at their job, but shouldn't it occur to them that what you're doing might be a shade on the grey side of acceptable behaviour when the most apt pet name for the scheme makes reference to a wave-motion gun or earth-shattering kaboom?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Feb 9th, 2010 at 07:24:47 PM EST
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What is it with trading desks and code names?

Run amok testosterone is my guess. We could probably get ourselves into a regime of stability by banning males from all aspects of trading. :-)

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Feb 9th, 2010 at 09:14:04 PM EST
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