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Anders Wejryd triggered outrage from a Lutheran church in Africa when he ordained an openly lesbian woman as bishop of Stockholm on 8 November

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And as we all know the swedish church is in apostolic succession as well.

No, there is no real theological argument just misogynistic, prejudiced ridden interpretation of unfortunate ambiguous texts and traditions.

by PeWi on Wed Feb 10th, 2010 at 10:42:58 AM EST
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Yes, but such things can lead to mutual excommunication with other churches via loss of recognition of apostolic succession. According to Wikipedia
Pope Leo XIII, in his 1896 bull Apostolicae Curae, ruled that the Church of England had lost its apostolic succession due to the changes in the rite of episcopal consecration which invalidated the sacrament. However, since the 1930s Old Catholic bishops (whom Rome recognizes as valid) have acted as co-consecrators in the ordination of Anglican bishops. By 1969, all Anglican bishops had acquired Old Catholic lines of apostolic succession fully recognized by Rome, according to Timothy Dufort.[25] Nevertheless, the ordination of women and active homosexuals to the Anglican priesthood and episcopacy have often been seen as evidence by some Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians that Anglican orders are invalid, on the basis that such actions allegedly constitute a break with apostolic tradition and this allegedly nullifies ordinations taking place in such an ecclesial communion.[citation needed]
Most Protestant denominations appear to be indifferent to the issue of apostolic succession or even opposed to the concept of it, but not so the CofE.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 11th, 2010 at 03:43:15 AM EST
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Well, the ECUSA, the Anglican Communion member on this side of the pond, doesn't much care what the pope decrees and doesn't spend much time tracking down Old Catholics to preserve apostolic succession.  For us, Bluff King Hal split with Rome and took the apostolic succession with him, and there is no need to worry about Rome's attitude on the subject.

The materials you cite are RC apologia.  Dufort never met a piece of ecclesiastical history he didn't try to rewrite for the sake of ecumenism.  He was papering over a "dispute" that on the Anglican side of the aisle had been forgotten by one and all except for perhaps a half-dozen in the bowels of the Canterbury archives.  When the bull was issued, it was met with a collective yawn over here, but some in England actually got their knickers in a twist until they finally figured out that Leo had merely taken a very sad pot-shot at what was already a 350-year-old dispute.  That the Anglicans treated the sacraments differently than the Romans was not exactly news, whether it was the rejection of transubstantiation, offering both the host and the wine at eucharist, or the rejection of salvation by works.

by rifek on Sat Feb 13th, 2010 at 07:41:52 PM EST
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Free republic is apparently right on something.

Eva Brunne was the first openly gay priest in the Swedish church and became bishop last November. She lives in the legislated state of registered partnership with Gunilla Lindén who is also a priest.

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by A swedish kind of death on Thu Feb 11th, 2010 at 07:29:26 PM EST
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Free republic is apparently right on something.

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Feb 11th, 2010 at 08:20:53 PM EST
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