Did Mary Magdalen have a lesser role within his inner circle than some of those who were purportedly included in his official inner circle? Did he quote those very few passages in the old testament which are now construed as condemning homosexuality (when that concept or social construct did not exist at the time) and which are more accurately construed as condemning unfaithfulness and exploitative human behaviour?
But we all choose the bits of key documents which suit our argument. Why do "Christians" now seek to discriminate against women and gays? The "Church" provides a sanctuary from all those who prefer an older, more traditional world where women were in the kitchen, and gays in the closet. Where even very inadequate men could rule the roost. Who else provides a pulpit for such misogyny, egotism, authoritarianism, homophobia, hypocrisy and cant? It's about the only place left for them to go.
Yes, women and gays ARE a threat to the fetishisation of reality into "mysteries" and "sacraments", and long may they continue to be so - along with everyone else who insists on a democracy where all are created equal... notes from no w here
Yes, women ... ARE a threat to the fetishisation of reality into "mysteries" and "sacraments"
I see you didn't grow up in Catholic Ireland.
Some may dispute the extent to which I grew up, but it was very much in Catholic Ireland. I should, more accurately, have phrased my comment to read - the ordination and consecration of women is a threat that that traditional world-view, not necessarily the women themselves - although in my experience, it can be the women as well. (My mother-in-law is a 79 year old ordained priest who has no time for such crap) notes from no w here
limited to a few references in ancient documents which reflect the social mores of the times they were produced in.
Which pretty much describes the entire crumbling edifice.
There is nothing - nothing - fundiegelicals enjoy more than a good book-bothering punch up.
Their punch-ups - over a supposedly infallible and divinely inspired book, which is so divinely inspired that no one agrees what it means - have literally been happening for millennia.
I'm not seeing this as a gender issue, so much as a gender issue used as an excuse for more of the same.
There's no point looking for sanity or reasoning here, because there isn't any to be found.
