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Fitch is an American agency bought by a French financier, Marc Adreit de Lacharrière, and his holding company Fimalac. Its headquarters are in NY and London. The fact that it is held by a French firm isn't even mentioned in the Wikipedia articles (two versions) on Fitch.

You wonder if Gollum Sacks (for instance), might offer payment to a rating agency to diss US Treasuries (for instance)? You smoking powerful stuff. Not so much because of the first part of the supposition. Change US Treasuries for some foreign government's bonds, it might work.

Does anyone care why three American (in spite of a French billionaire owning Fitch) agencies can keep quiet about steaming piles of (US) junk, but make rumbling noises about foreign sovereigns that in fact push the market around? It hasn't seemed to bother anyone in the centre of world financial power to date.

There has been talk recently of creating European rating agencies to compete with this American quasi-monopoly.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Mar 11th, 2010 at 03:01:33 AM EST
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You wonder if Gollum Sacks (for instance), might offer payment to a rating agency to diss US Treasuries (for instance)?

Well, thought I'd start with the most outrageous example possible. It certainly is safer to downgrade smaller European sovereigns, especially after the recent (inspired?) news blitz on the subject, and the Brits have a similar system, The City generally supports Wall Street in Europe on regulatory issues and vise versa, but the bigger the tree you shake, the more fruit you find on the ground. And when you have Obama and the corporatist Dems as well as the Repubs flying air cover...who knows. But if I were charged with the stability of the British Pound, I would be concerned. With these folks money is a lot thicker than blood or friendship.

You smoking powerful stuff.

Just my sig line.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Mar 11th, 2010 at 11:37:00 AM EST
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You wonder if Gollum Sacks (for instance), might offer payment to a rating agency to diss US Treasuries (for instance)?

Nothing so crude as offering money to diss US securities, no, no, no. Just a polite conversation about how much work it would be to do the evaluation necessary to adequately rate US securities in this unprecedented environment, how just one little tick downward would create so much more work and you would have to be sure you were adequately staffed, and how glad the caller was that he did not have that burden on his shoulders, etc.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Mar 11th, 2010 at 11:44:11 AM EST
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