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So I think it's a good assumption that the Church might also justify its use of legal maneuvers to avoid hurting innocent people with public embarrassment in much the same way.

There's absolutely no evidence that the Catholic Church systematically uses legal maneuvers to avoid hurting innocent people.

And there's plenty of evidence that the Catholic Church has systematically attempted to cover up criminal activity.

Lawyers, journalists, police and psychologists are not a monolithic pseudo-corporate multinational, and are hardly comparable to the Church's institutionalised attempts to claim moral authority while deriving political influence through deliberately sanctioned abuse.

The closest comparable organisation is Scientology - and not even Scientology has been credibly abused of systematic child abuse.

This is one of the rare situations where the moral questions are entirely black and white.

'Other people do it too' is hardly a defence against them - because they don't on anything like the same scale, or for the same reasons.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 09:38:55 PM EST
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It's a valid argument that Church's level of power in some societies mean that restrictions on that power might be appropriate even if such restrictions are not placed on comparable service providers that aren't organized on a billion member scale. But the rest of statements just reflect your anti-religious bias absent honest evidence of support. You just don't trust people who believe in God, especially people with lots of followers, so you feel comfortable letting your normally healthy skepticism take a vacation and go on assuming any negative story about such people is true without considering the possibility of alternative evidence. It's fundamentally dishonest and lazy, but if it works for you, great.
by santiago on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 11:37:40 AM EST
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I don't care if people believe in god. Generally it's most useful to look at people's actions - which is why I don't trust people who abuse children, and then lie about it and try to cover it up.

This isn't moral rocket science for most people, and healthy skepticism can draw its own conclusions when there's such overwhelming evidence of wrong doing.

You're clearly deciding to ignore that evidence, or to keep lying about it knowingly and hoping that no one will notice.

Well - good luck persuading anyone with that, here or elsewhere.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 07:35:32 PM EST
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