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Radical Cartography: If we were able to take as the finest allegory of simulation the Borges tale where the cartographers of the Empire draw up a map so detailed that it ends up exactly covering the territory (but where the decline of the Empire sees this map become frayed and finally ruined, a few shreds still discernible in the deserts -- the metaphysical beauty of this ruined abstraction, bearing witness to an Imperial pride and rotting like a carcass, returning to the substance of the soil, rather as an aging double ends up being confused with the real thing) -- then this fable has come full circle for us, and now has nothing but the discrete charm of second-order simulacra.

Abstraction today is no longer that of the map, the double, the mirror or the concept. Simulation is no longer that of a territory, a referential being or substance. It is the generation of models of a real without origin or reality: a hyperreal. The territory no longer precedes the map, nor survives it. Henceforth, it is the map that precedes the territory -- PRECESSION OF SIMULACRA -- it is the map that engenders the territory and if we were to revive the fable today, it would be the territory whose shreds are slowly rotting across the map. It is the real, and not the map, whose vestiges subsist here and there, in the deserts which are no longer those of the Empire but our own: The desert of the real itself.

-- Jean Baudrillard, "The Precession of Simulacra"

Statistical Atlas of the 9th US Census

ht Mr E.H. Paulson

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:28:22 PM EST
Heavy stuff by Mr Baudrate. But of course so-called reality is always an individual construct from sensory inputs codified by everything constructed before, in the process of distinguishing signal from noise - which we think ourselves to be rather good at. We are quite good at it since we've been training since the womb. So good, sometimes, that instead of codifying the actual inputs, (eg zen awareness), we substitute 'nessness' i.e. we don't see the trees that are there (if they are unimportant to our activity), we recall treeness.

This is not so far from putting simulated trees in a simulated digital environment.  It is only the detection of novelty that moves us to more accurately codify a particular experience. Novelty rewards. It should be called the 'dessert of reality itself'.

I am not myself a user of 'pants' as an expression of ???. But it is a novelty... for the moment.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:47:18 PM EST
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Use of "oh pants" tracked by ET site Google.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:21:54 PM EST
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Tahnks, Mig!

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:31:19 PM EST
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I am inclined to believe that the expression 'pants' is directly related to the aspirations of the 'sans-culottes'. ET is a hotbed of such revolutionary sartorialness.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:55:38 PM EST
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no, Watson.
pants(!) is a sanitary expletive, solution to a recent moderator advisory. In CR threads, "hot bed" of illiterate digital communication technology, commenters deploy the [brown pant] icon.

Do try to keep up.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 04:14:36 PM EST
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Thank you, madame, I shall endeavour to remain acquainted with the argot.

But I think you have your etymologies intertwining like a pit of coral snakes coated in wild vaseline. 'Brown pants' and 'Oh pants', though conceivably connected, nevertheless have emerged from two different lines of social thought. You have to remember that the definition of 'pants' in your fair island, and in my enormous continent, differs.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 04:23:12 PM EST
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May the Urban Dictionary restore international understanding.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 05:02:21 PM EST
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So many uses, so little time. Like herding snakes in a reef or something.

Tnahks you, Mig!


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 07:31:41 PM EST
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Two different lines of social thought. Among English speakers.
O RLY?
You have been [CR-17] [Wright Model B] [I'm shocked,to find gambling going on here] [Prozac] warned.
Accept Icon Fluency as your savior.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 07:18:42 PM EST
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o svenki. Size doesn't matter. The "real" story is the Statistical Atlas of the 9th US Census. yes, illustrated; scroll to image #35, for example of intellectual history of national income accounting before Kuznets.

BTW, anybody know where to locate share/freeware JP2K reader for mac?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:30:08 PM EST
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I can just imagine Sven's expletive (not "pants") if some client claimed that in reality they HAD already paid, despite Sven's claim that they hadn't, after all, THEY thought they had and "of course so-called reality is always an individual construct from sensory inputs codified by everything constructed before, in the process of distinguishing signal from noise"  

:-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 07:21:00 PM EST
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"There is no there, there" ?

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:36:14 PM EST
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[very serious] There is no there anywhere. [/very serious]
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 05:49:04 PM EST
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There are theres there. These are things we know that we know to be there . There are not known to be there. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know where they are. But there are also unknown things we don't. There are things we don't know we don't know where they are.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 06:52:57 PM EST
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That probably applies to most of the items in this house.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 07:15:56 PM EST
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the tao of rumsfeld...

ceebs, really!

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 08:16:40 PM EST
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Well it makes as much sense here as anywhere :D

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 08:18:02 PM EST
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ThatBritGuy:
[very serious] There is no there anywhere. [/very serious]

LOL

then it's all here!

nice to know... thanks for clearing that up.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 08:16:00 PM EST
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