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Docudharma:: DESERTEC gets serious -- Teams up with First Solar
RED PAPER
AN OVERVIEW OF THE DESERTEC CONCEPT
(pdf)

Within 6 hours deserts receive more energy from the sun than humankind consumes within a year.

[...]

Over 90% of the world's population could be supplied with clean power from deserts by using technologies that are available today.


The Tech is Available TODAY.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:35:56 PM EST
Yea, the tech is available. Except for the transmission of the power cos long distance AC doesn't work and long distance DC is a good theory with as yet an undeveloped technology.

Also lacking is political will. And without that, nothing will happen. Too much lobby money is coming form dinosaur carbon and nuclear producers to allow DFH energy to get a serious inroad.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:41:10 PM EST
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The SuperGrid has been discussed here before. We need Migeru's enviable talents to find it.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:49:15 PM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:36:17 PM EST
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Political will is the biggest obstacle...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:52:10 PM EST
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long distance DC works, and is cost effective. The question is how to price network inter-connections, and especially how to price connections with non-power-consuming areas...

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:27:33 PM EST
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I didn't realise, I thought it was one of those "good ideas" that had never really gone anywhere cos of the investment in an existing technology.

my point about political will still applies tho'

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:32:40 PM EST
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your political point stands fully.

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 03:17:57 PM EST
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An EU Smart Grid initiative could help to solve those pricing problems through a CEP - Common Energy Policy - that works with the other regional policies.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 01:32:52 PM EST
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o Splendid! Energy without borders! (see map) You've captured the Desertec "animus" and rationale for ALIEN INVASION and beneficial interest in POTENTATE FRATERNIZATION in a word or two. Well done.

What's good for the EU is good for "90% of the world".

Gadaffi 2020!

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 03:06:51 PM EST
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European Tribune - World Energy 2.0
World Energy 2.0

there was some great commentary on this diary.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Mar 22nd, 2010 at 09:48:33 AM EST
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worth reading for the star trek part, where pierre, migeru, askod and colman take things to cosmic levels!

and rg's multidimensional interjections...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Mar 22nd, 2010 at 10:11:08 AM EST
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LOL, that thread is an ET classic. It makes me want to sit down and write science-fiction...

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 22nd, 2010 at 10:30:58 AM EST
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you should!

wrap that diary about QM in a plot.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Mar 23rd, 2010 at 10:33:06 AM EST
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It would be very boring science fiction.

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Mar 23rd, 2010 at 10:40:54 AM EST
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depends on the plot...

oh well, the idea's good.

it was like some jam session where everything suddenly takes off from nowhere.

love ET.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Mar 23rd, 2010 at 04:28:07 PM EST
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