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I'm on HCR vote watch all day -- Stupak, the dem who was holding out on his ridiculous abortion stand, just caved.  That makes the vote a lot less precarious.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 04:16:35 PM EST
Bring us the good news Izzy...
by Nomad on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 04:30:34 PM EST
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Thanks, Nomad.  I don't think there's going to be any big 'news' now until they get to the actual vote.  Right now, it's just all the house members making statements, many yielding their time so various factions can have their say.  Lots of repetitive R talking points, some statements by Ds about history and compassion and personal stories of constituents, and occasionally an outbreak of fighting over parliamentary rules.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 05:35:31 PM EST
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One vote down, one to go!

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 10:50:44 PM EST
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oops - for non-US context:  the House just passed the Senate bill 219 - 212.  The vote on the reconciliation bill is next.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 10:54:33 PM EST
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Representative Sanchez tweeted about an hour ago the vote is expected around 11 PM EST.  
by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 05:53:28 PM EST
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Damn it.  They said 9PM earlier today.  No wonder the fucking bill took a year: Nobody on the Hill can schedule for shit.

May have to stay up for this one.  Figure I can go one day on three hours of sleep.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 06:00:54 PM EST
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Yeah, happy for a change that I'm west coast.  Usually things are happening in the morning before I get up.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 06:22:31 PM EST
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I know that feeling.  
by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 06:55:23 PM EST
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"Fucking Bill?"  Jeez the SocialistNaziPinkoCommieDFHs are legislating EVERYTHING!

:-)

Apparently one hour of debate time is taking two hours.

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 06:42:58 PM EST
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I think they're voting on some procedural issues and then the reconciliation bill first, too.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 07:48:22 PM EST
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LOL

You can be assured they are voting on "some procedural issues."

I do grant the House is better about ramming through to getting around to the vote than the Senate.  

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 07:58:17 PM EST
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They just passed the roll call on the rule (whatever the hell that means), according to Boo.  224 Yays.  Generally my understanding is that's a pretty good indicator of how the final vote should come down.

So we'd do a little better than we'd need to if that were the case.

I've little doubt Pelosi planned that out to allow some of the Dems in more vulnerable seats to vote against it.  That's probably why they put up with Stupak's bullshit.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 08:12:09 PM EST
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The full House has to vote to accept the Rules Committee's recommendation for the Rules of Debate for the Bill under consideration as binding.  In other words, they just agreed how they are going to go about talking about talking about the HCR bill.

And I have no idea why I know that and how and when I learned it.

A Roll Call vote means they all had to stand up, on the record, and publicly 'fess up how they voted.

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 08:33:15 PM EST
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:D

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 08:40:26 PM EST
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LOL

BTW, I was sorely tempted to write:

ATTN: Drew Jones

on our census form envelope before mailing it in.  

I refrained.

Cuz I'm turning into a wuss.

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 08:44:14 PM EST
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Dude!  Don't do that.  You're gonna get me sent to Gitmo or a black site or the NEA.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 08:54:48 PM EST
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Oh fuck, you're right.

Can some gnome please delete and remove it?

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 09:00:51 PM EST
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LOL

It's on the Intertubez during my off-hours, so we're good.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 09:08:07 PM EST
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...adding: I was joking about sending to Census form to my attention.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 09:08:47 PM EST
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That's kind of you but ...

Given what I know "things" - keeping it vague (I know "things") - I'd feel better if this whole thing was deleted.  

Like ASAP

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 09:17:20 PM EST
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Nah, you worry too much.

By the way, not sure if you follow them, but The Great Orange Satan's -- Kos, not Boehner -- Twitter feed is full of lulz from all the big bloggers sources tonight.  Highly entertaining.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 09:48:25 PM EST
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Sat down in my comfie chair and woke-up an hour later.  You know you're getting old when ...

Thanks for the pointer, those are good.

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 10:47:47 PM EST
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Obama's approval rating surges 7 points in one day on today's Gallup poll.

Nobody could've predicted....

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 09:51:13 PM EST
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John Cole wins Comment of the Day:

I'm not sure, but I think Mike Pence just declared that famous dead people will repeal health care.


Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 09:53:35 PM EST
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I liked "zombie Reagan, why have you forsaken them?"

Nancy's up!  Almost there!

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 10:16:31 PM EST
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by ATinNM on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 11:03:16 PM EST
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And his skin still looks more natural than Boehner's.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 11:21:09 PM EST
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So I understand the Republicans voting against, but what sensible reason do the 34 democrats have for voting against?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 10:50:53 PM EST
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various single-issue fanatics, some idiots, and some given a pass by Pelosi because they're in close seats in conservative districts.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 10:53:02 PM EST
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Some are just pansies, but a lot of these guys represent some pretty conservative districts that they wouldn't have won without the big Democratic waves of 2006 and 2008.  Like I said above, I suspect that's why Pelosi put up with Stupak, so that she could have enough room for those guys to vote no if they felt they needed to.

Will it help them?  Probably not.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 21st, 2010 at 11:20:15 PM EST
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