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France24 - Les femmes-relais refusent d'être en première ligne dans le débat sur la burqaFrance24 - Women immigrant outreach groups steer clear of burqa debate
"Les femmes qui portent le voile intégral le font par choix religieux, leurs maris ne les forcent pas à le faire. Quand on touche à la religion, l'implication est tellement forte qu'il est possible de dialoguer mais pas de s'opposer", indique Fatima Ould Kaddour, responsable de l'association Schebba, à Marseille. "Le dialogue est long à installer, on est parfois vue comme une menace par certaines communautés, il faut y aller à petits pas", réagit Pinda, de l'association Arifa."Women who wear the head-to-toe veil do so by religious choice, their husbands don't force them to do it. When it's about religion, the involvement is so strong that we can have a dialogue, but you can't just oppose things," says Fatima Ould Kaddour, head of the Schebba association in Marseille. "Dialogue takes a long time to happen. Sometimes we're seen as a threat by certain communities...we need to move forward in baby steps," explains Pinda, who works for Arifa.
Reste aussi la question de la pertinence d'un tel texte, compte tenu du nombre de femmes qu'il risque de concerner. "Je n'ai jamais reçu ici de femmes portant la burqa. On n'en compte que quelques-unes aux Bosquets", explique Nassima, pourtant prête à faire de la sensibilisation sur la question... à condition que les femmes voilées soient demandeuses. "Dans les quartiers dont on s'occupe ici - Les Flamants, La Busserine -, il y a très peu de femmes portant un voile intégral, peut-être 4 sur 15 000 habitants environ.Critics of the proposed burqa ban also question the point of such a law, given the relatively low number of women concerned. "I've never dealt with women wearing the burqa here. There are only a few of them in les Bosquets," explains Nassima, who says she is nevertheless willing to help raise awareness about the issue as long as the women are interested. Fatima says of Marseille: "In the neighbourhoods we deal with here, there are very few women who wear the head-to-toe veil, maybe about four out of 15,000 residents.
J'en connais deux, elles ont une trentaine d'années, et aucune n'est forcée à le faire", précise pour sa part Fatima, à Marseille. Une manière de poser la question du nombre de musulmanes portant le voile intégrale en France, et de la légitimité d'une loi concernant quelques centaines de personnes. "I know two of them, they are about 30 years old, and neither of them is forced to wear it." Such accounts call into question the legitimacy of a law that would affect only a few hundred people.


The march of civilizations is a series of defenses that man has put up against the dread of pure existence.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:14:40 AM EST
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"light of laïcité" -- alliteration and rhyme!

At the height of the controversy, everyone seemed to have an opinion about the law. More than sixty public personalities--including actresses Emmanuelle Béart and Isabelle Adjani, philosopher Élisabeth Badinter, former government ministers Corinne Lepage and Yvette Roudy, and activist Fadela Amara--appealed to Chirac in the pages of Elle magazine to pass a law banning the foulard. Few voices were heard in defense of both laïcité and Muslim girls' civil right to attend school. Among these were comic book artist Marjane Satrapi, who wrote in the Guardian that to forbid schoolgirls to wear the veil was as repressive as forcing them to wear it, and philosopher Pierre Tévanian, who argued that laïcité applied to institutions, not people.

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emphasis added to levity

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 09:33:20 AM EST
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Beyond the Veil - Laila Lalami | The Nation
Scott's broad and exhaustive research makes for a bracing account of the debate.

Scott on Conversations with History, discussing her book, cited in Lalami's article, The Politics of the Veil:



Cat: "light of laïcité" -- alliteration

Picture Copé with a snout, small eyes and a corkscrew tail.  Now picture Marianne exhorting Copé as she colors his lips bright red, with the caption: "Go forth to les Bosquets and bring them the good news of laïcité."




The march of civilizations is a series of defenses that man has put up against the dread of pure existence.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:30:46 PM EST
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an outstanding contribution. thank you.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Mar 14th, 2010 at 09:23:21 AM EST
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