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The possibility that the US got it wrong after 9/11 and still hasn't come to its senses is unthinkable to these people.

I'd also add that the US still hasn't gotten over the Iranian embassy hostage crisis.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 7th, 2010 at 06:22:50 AM EST
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Or Vietnam. Or Korea.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Mar 7th, 2010 at 08:48:28 AM EST
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I did suggest that the US had a list of all perceived slights, injuries and defeats, and was working through them in reverse chronological order, so Iran is next, then Vietnam then North Korea then Germany, and finally at the end of the list (Unless they have to start all over again due to new slights or insults) they will work there way round eventually to England, who were the original people to disagree with America.

Unfortunately whenever I think of that I come to the conclusion that the US government is run somewhat like the U-boat crew in the Dads army episode.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Mar 7th, 2010 at 11:33:14 AM EST
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agreed jerome. but it goes with the inability of americans to look at the world obejctively...

Life is not a dress rehearsal
by johnfire (johnfire@christopherrehm.com) on Sun Mar 7th, 2010 at 11:16:30 AM EST
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No one looks at the world objectively.

Biases for the US:

  • Even in today's "small" world, we're very isolated culturally.
  • We have military power, which means jingoism has real, negative consequences for the rest of the world.
  • Being a wealthy country, there are few immediate consequences for holding dangerous and damaging narrative beliefs.
  • Addiction to the drug of empire.


you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Mar 8th, 2010 at 01:54:28 PM EST
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And a deep-seated cultural mythos of the empty world and infinite horizons.

In fact, it may be argued that the settlement of the Americas, more than anything else, paved the way for the (implicit) assumption in much of economic thought that natural resources were for all intents and purposes in infinite supply. Until the mass settlement of the Americas, the most important raw material constraint on economic activity had been agricultural land. Indeed in many ways agricultural land was the only important raw material constraint on economic activity. With one fell swoop (and judicious application of breech-loaded rifles on recalcitrant natives), this constraint was not merely lifted - it was rendered almost entirely irrelevant, and it would be about two centuries before any equally urgent raw material constraint appeared.

It would be strange indeed if being ground zero for this cosmic shift in the human condition did not have a profound effect on the American cultural myths.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Mar 8th, 2010 at 03:41:25 PM EST
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At the front end, too, it was poor Europeans moving to the US - poor meaning they had nothing, and thus more likely to have a myopic focus on getting "something."

American culture often feels strange to me (even as it's the only culture I have lived) and the "brute force" nature of resource use here is a big part of that. To synthesize a new culture out of this resource abundance would take more generations than we have time for. It could serve as the basis of a serious reduction in violence and competition, but beyond some good ideas on the cultural periphery we've thus far only used it to engage in ever more elaborate games of social status seeking.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Mar 8th, 2010 at 04:09:24 PM EST
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Not to hand wave the social gains of the 20th century - which wouldn't have happened without all that energy available, but it took more than that. But most of the energy does go toward activities I find useless.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Mar 9th, 2010 at 01:34:55 PM EST
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