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How much do you need to ingest before you see Jesus?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Mar 9th, 2010 at 01:23:18 PM EST
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It's probably one of those things like nutmeg, where you'll throw up before you can ingest enough to have a perceivable effect. Or then again, like peyote, the throwing up (or georging, as the Finns will have it), maybe part of the cleansing process.

But what hit me today (and I know the rest of you know this already, so don't shout at me) was that the average medicine dosage, say in pill form, and not counting the inert delivery material, is a few milligrams. So a sprinkle of nutmeg - not counting the delivery material - has to be doing 'something'. In fact I've always loved using a wide range of spices in cooking not only for the creative taste possibilities, but also because all these exotic spices must contain bizarre mixtures of elements and molecules. It stands to reason!

I like sumac for instance, it's a souring spice made from genus Rhus and related genera. That's a flowering plant. Great in cooking rice.

I mean, every plant does something to you apart from taste and aroma. Do we trust the natural pharmacopoeia?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 9th, 2010 at 01:50:24 PM EST
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My preferred mind-altering hallucinogen is Roquefort

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 9th, 2010 at 01:57:36 PM EST
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Ah yes. The host with the most.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 9th, 2010 at 02:51:29 PM EST
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Sven Triloqvist:
It's probably one of those things like nutmeg, where you'll throw up before you can ingest enough to have a perceivable effect.

perhaps these weak psychoactives were discovered by half starving, bored sailors on long voyages, or prisoners almost at the point of hallucination anyway, and being in such a sensitive condition, it took very little to tip them over some edge in their minds, whereas the average well fed westerner now would have to eat so much of it to affect himself, it would indeed be quite toxic. nutmeg does contain traces ofmyristicin and safrole, and can be a precursor to MDMA though i think they're so small as to be negligible.

certainly the aroma of fresh grated nutmeg over mashed potatoes, or with baked apples is intoxicating.

cinnamon, nutmeg, vanilla and cloves are all heavenly flavours, combining really well.

where's the line between getting pleasured by something and getting high from it?

precisely, mind... none of yer vagueries

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Mar 9th, 2010 at 03:00:31 PM EST
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Nutmeg is one to definitely avoid, the level where it becomes lethal is only twice the ammount required to cause the hallucinatory effect. so its very easy to mess up terminally

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 9th, 2010 at 04:08:23 PM EST
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