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Give me an Audi over a Volvo any day.  Having a larger internal market provides economies of scale and opportunities for innovation and development that smaller fragmented markets simply don't have.  So there are structural benefits to being part of a larger Eurozone which can be somewhat offset by the imbalances that uneven development, asynchronous shocks, and uncoordinated Government fiscal policies can create.  

Deflation is much more painful than devaluation but the impact on comparative competitiveness can be similar.  Countries which habitually inflate also tend to habitually devalue.  The German strategy of export led growth can only be replicated across the Eurozone if the Eurozone, collectively, improves its competitive position Vis a vis the US, China etc.

Globalisation implies that, ultimately, we are all competing with China in productivity, wage rates, "flexibility", workers rights, and perhaps even with human rights, but I remain convinced that long term, good human rights are a prerequisite to ongoing growth and development.

The challenge for Europe is to show that relatively good human rights, workers rights, political democracy, ecological responsibility, gender equality, and income equality are not only compatible with higher aggregate incomes and wealth, but perhaps a prerequisite for them.

Europe arguably has the highest average quality of life in the world today.  To the neo-libs this is a worrying anomaly to be challenged and dissed and propagandised negatively at every opportunity.  Our challenge is to develop an alternative narrative and paradigm which shows that it is in fact the logical outcome of more equal, fairer, and more sustainable policies and systems.

Yes, we are competing with China and the USA.  Just not on their terms.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 07:47:06 AM EST
My point is that it's not feasible for the US, China and the EU to all be net exporters... because every export is an import... (Jerome pulls out Lake Woebegon as an analogy...) but I don't see models around that address this...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 12:50:23 PM EST
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I believe that Keynes proposed a system with trade tariffs that were levied on those with trade surpluses, or some similar mechanism. That might work, but the problem is getting those with surpluses to agree to the system.

I favor a system of tariffs based on the imputed costs of a level of social and environmental goods and services below which your country does not wish to fall. If the exporting country matches those levels the tariffs would not apply. This would be good for citizens, but it would get in the way of profits for Walmart and Wall Street, so it is unlikely to happen.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 02:11:29 PM EST
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Prosperity UK, How Keynes' Bancor International Trade Currency Would Work

In his book, Goodbye America! Globalisation, Debt and the Dollar Empire, Mike Rowbotham raised for consideration, Keynes', ultimately unsuccessful, proposal for an "International Clearing Union" and a "Bancor" international trade currency -- intended to foster international trade balances.

As Mike wrote in Goodbye America:

...Keynes proposed a new, neutral unit of international currency -- the 'Bancor' -- and a new institution -- the International Clearing or Currency Union (ICU). All international trade would be measured in Bancors. Exporting would accrue Bancors, importing would expend Bancors. Nations were expected to maintain, within a small percentage, a zero account with the ICU. This would indicate that they had an overall equivalence of imports and exports. Each nation's Bancor account would also be related to its currency through a fixed, but adjustable, exchange rate.

The key feature of Keynes proposal was that it placed an equal obligation on creditor and debtor nations to maintain a balance of trade ...

Nations that imported more than they exported -- debtor nations -- would pay a small interest charge to the Clearing Union on their overdrawn account. This would encourage those nations to promote exports by a range of domestic policies as well as marginal currency devaluation. Equally, nations that ran an aggressive trade policy and exported more than they imported would also be charged by the Clearing Union for their surplus account. This would encourage those nations to find ways to spend their excess Bancors back in debtor nations -- or gradually lose that surplus...

by TGeraghty on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 06:31:34 PM EST
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Ah, the good old Prosperity UK...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 07:44:40 PM EST
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Is it a site of, umm, questionable repute?

The Bancor thing seemed to be on the up and up.

by TGeraghty on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 07:52:28 PM EST
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I found the site an instructive read about deb and money some years ago. It is obviously outside the mainstream.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 08:05:59 PM EST
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Joe Stiglitz advocates adopting a modern version of Keynes' Bancor system as a mechanism for a world monetary expansion.

William Pfaff: New IMF Reserve Currency May Be Answer

...the orthodoxies of an obsolescent era continue to contradict one another. The canonical IMF-style remedy for nations with the kind of difficulties that prevail from London to Madrid and on to Athens is national austerity, budget cuts and reduced social spending.

Equally orthodox is for governments at the same time to do everything possible to encourage people to spend, so as to fuel demand for industrial goods, and the widest possible consumer consumption. To spend, consumers need the same money austerity is taking away from them, or preventing them from earning.

Economists and officials obviously are aware of this dilemma but see no orthodox way out of it other than by deepening budget deficits, which not every country can afford. The European Central Bank has just given Athens a year to master its deficit, which may not be possible.

...This is not too hard a problem to solve. You create [a new global currency]. Stiglitz is calling for a new issue by the International Monetary Fund of what has been called Special Drawing Rights (or "Bancor," which is what John Maynard Keynes, who first thought of it, called the fresh creation of imaginary money).

...Stiglitz says that it would be rather like declaring that a massive goldmine has been discovered under the IMF building, yielding perhaps $600 billion a year. In accordance with a particular formula based on their income, the IMF would send out letters to its members telling them how much of this gold they own, and that they should begin augmenting their currency supply, to be backed by this gold, in full confidence that the new money will be honored. "All that matters is trust, the willingness of governments to exchange the paper gold." World liquidity would be vastly increased, demand multiplied, industry resume production.

Stiglitz: Thanks to the Deficit, the Buck Stops Here

The United Nations' Commission of Experts on Reforms of the International Monetary and Financial System...has argued that a new global reserve currency system may be the most important reform to ensure the long-term health of the world's economy...

In its interim report in June, the commission described a number of alternatives. Some involve building on the International Monetary Fund's "special drawing rights," or SDRs -- a kind of "IMF money" -- but making the issuance of this global reserve money annual and more predictable....Other proposed reforms are more complex and ambitious, such as issuing new global reserves in ways and amounts that could be used to stabilize the world's economy or to invest in "global public goods," such as helping developing nations reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

by TGeraghty on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 06:47:11 PM EST
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Cheeky of me... but can I ask, apart from:

a) The fact that nations heavily in surplus (in particular, but likely those in deficit too) don't like the idea of a system that forces them to adjust.

b) General neo-liberal dislike of things that interfere with helping the rich get richer and/or bully small countries.

Are there "downsides" to the Bancor?

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 07:04:19 PM EST
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It seems like getting the quantity and allocation of a new SDR issue just right could be a challenge, just like with any kind of money supply (too little and you overly restrict trade, too much and its inflationary).
by TGeraghty on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 07:56:45 PM EST
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The GIANT downside is for banks who profit from the money created from debt scheme combined with the fact that, at least in the Anglo world, the big banks dominate the financial policies, at a minimum, of the national governments. This is so fundamental that less than fifty years after the printing of greenbacks by the US Government during the Civil War, when stability was required in the financial and money markets in the USA The Federal Reserve System was established as a system of private banks with a public mandate to control the money supply.

To establish a system of issuance of debt free money by national governments it would be necessary to break the power the banks currently hold in these societies. Come the day!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 08:23:50 PM EST
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And the Federal Reserve System creates money by having the Treasury print a bond which it then purchases, crediting the Treasury with freshly created money. This is the process which J.K. Gailbraith, Sr. described as being so simple that it repelled the mind.

I suppose that buying bonds with the freshly created money is unnecessary, as the greenback episode demonstrates, but it insures that the money is debt based and, without that, a good portion of the bond market for institutions such as Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan would not exist.

What makes Federal Reserve Notes or what would again make greenbacks legal tender is the same thing--the fiat declaration on the bills that the note "is legal tender for all debts public and private." and that it is the unit in which taxes are paid and federal expenditures are made.

I guess the conclusion of all of this is that buying the bond to make the money debt backed might be gratuitous. So it is fortunate for the bankers that the process is "repugnant to the mind."

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Mar 10th, 2010 at 09:09:44 PM EST
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