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In practice it doesn't eliminate tactical voting though.  For instance, in my own (multi-seat STV) constituency, I would vote first for a local independent, second for a Green, third for Labour, and possibly forth for the lesser of two evils (Fianna Fail/Fine Gael) knowing full well that the Independent and the Green will be eliminated, that my vote will probably help elect the Labour candidate, and failing that (or in the event of the Labour candidate already having a quota) elect the lesser evil.  In that way I can encourage the development of local community politics, the Green Party, and Labour whilst at the same time ensuring that the worst candidate/party has a lesser chance of getting in.  Effectively my vote is counted 3/4 times and has a role in determining the final seat.  In other words it helps shape the development of politics long term, helps shape choices, but is ultimately determinant.  

It encourages the participation of minor parties//candidates, and of voters who might otherwise say "a plague on all your houses" as there is no candidate that remotely reflects their views.  Of course in a 5 seat constituency, it is also quite possible for a candidate with less than 10% of first preferences to get elected provided they can pull in enough second and lower preference votes as other candidates are eliminated.

Extremist parties parties do less well as they get lesser transfers of lower preference votes (many people will never give a preference to e.g. Sinn Fein or Fianna Fail) but an outstanding candidate, e.g. Joe Higgins of the tiny Socialist Party can get elected.

Of course such a system is hopelessly complicated for the Brits and really only suitable for the Irish...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri May 14th, 2010 at 04:44:12 AM EST
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A second preference vote is simpler, and likely simple enough for even the English electorate. Vote X for the one you want and 2 for the Lesser of Two Evils.

If the first preferences are also used as the vote for a party list in a PR component (either mixed representation or House of Lords), there's an even stronger incentive to keep your LOTE vote as your 2 vote.

And its a lot easier to announce 2nd Pref, Instant Run-off votes on the night than Full Preference, Alternative Vote.


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by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri May 14th, 2010 at 12:16:47 PM EST
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I tend to think there is one ideal voting system we must all seek, like a Grail, but your post makes me wonder if a certain amount of cultural relativism might be appropriate.

I have a particular hatred for STV (complicated, non-transparent, open to manipulation by the major parties), largely based on Australia, where it's an unmitigated failure in terms of boosting representivity. But that's perhaps because Australians are particularly (bites tongue and does not type "stupid") lazy about politics, they expect the major parties to be cynical and corrupt, and in their majority they play along with them. This is worsened by the fact that voting is compulsory, so that large numbers of people who really don't give a toss turn up and tick the box for a party's rort ticket.

The Irish counter-example is fascinating.

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by eurogreen on Sun May 16th, 2010 at 06:19:41 AM EST
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