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We erred. In good times we allowed social spending, and especially the taxes on the wealthy to remain low. We did this for social peace. Why go after more money from the wealthy, no matter how lightly taxes they are, if we can do well with what we have. Now that times are bad these agreements, especially along with further reductions as insisted on by economists and politicians who are apologists for the wealthy, will crush the lower income portion of our nation.

Worse, these policies will not end our economic problems. They will only make them worse. The problems are not due to the actions of those who are being asked to bear greater burdens. The problems are due to the actions of the very wealthy, and politicians, ourselves included, who went along with what the very wealthy wanted.

Our most basic problem is paying down the large debts that the wealthy and the government have run up. Cutting government spending in this economic situation WILL REDUCE economic activity and, thus, our ability to pay our debts. The economic activity of our country is the result of all of the spending throughout our country. When times are hard and people have too much debt they cut back spending. But the bottom 80% of the earners are unable to cut much. Those who can make big cuts in their spending are the very wealthy, and they do make these cuts. That is a large part of why the economy drops.

Why do the wealthy stop spending? Because they made a mess of the economy. Created, with the help of the banks and the government, a large run up in property prices, took loans and built retirement villas on the coasts, which villas cannot now be sold for a price that will pay the loan, etc. etc. They kept the profits when the bubble was expanding. Now they want your social benefits to pay for the costs when the bubble has collapsed.

So we will raise taxes on the highest earners. This will start with including all income in the payments for social benefits. That now includes only the base salary. Now bonuses and all other income will be taxed at the same rate as basic income. This will enable us to maintain benefits to the unemployed during these hard times and that will keep times from becoming harder. We will also phase out all exemptions and double the rate for all incomes over one million euros/year.

In addition we will impose a 1% tax on the gross earnings of all corporations doing business in Spain in return for the privilege of enjoying the benefits of being a corporation and we will impose a transaction fee of 0.1% on all financial transactions, with an exemption for the first 100,000 Euros/year. Etc. Etc.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 27th, 2010 at 06:25:40 PM EST
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There are two problems: The first problem is that times of growth seduced us into allowing the wealthy to take an ever greater share of the national product. This seemed acceptable as long as the economy was growing, but now that it is contracting, we need to claw back from the share of the pie going to the rich - otherwise the poor will pay for the depression, and that is not acceptable.

The second problem is that much of the wealth of the past boom was, in fact, counterfeit. Now the counterfeiters are demanding that their counterfeit money be made real out of your pension and salary.

(In principle, the two can be addressed separately, but I rather like the idea of insinuating that wealth disparity is due to counterfeiting by the wealthy - mostly because it's normally true.)

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu May 27th, 2010 at 06:52:22 PM EST
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I agree with the counterfeit money argument and it should definitely be included. What I suggested is far from definitive, but was set forth to show that it should not be too hard to make these arguments in straight forward terms in any society suffering under GFC financial predation, from Greece to the USA. But it should be a little easier to get resonance in countries with a recent socialist history, even if the socialism has become social goals rather than anything economic based. At least, in Spain, socialism is not a dirty word, yet.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 27th, 2010 at 10:14:21 PM EST
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I think every explanation should include something like this:
Migeru:
Productivity growth is a deflationary pressure. To counteract that pressure you need an expansive monetary policy. Otherwise, servicing debt becomes increasingly difficult, a crisis ensues and growth is halted.

Not only have we allowed people to counterfeit money we have based our economic development on people counterfeiting money.

Wait this is important. Someone is wrong on the Internet.

by generic on Fri May 28th, 2010 at 05:59:59 AM EST
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The counterfeiting argument is a bit tricky.

The way I see it, any credit (including bilateral trade credit, overdrafts, and so on) adds to the monetary mass. Clearing houses and banks can act as underwriters for trade credit, and they can issue their own credit. Then the monetary authorities merge with banking supervision because they have a dual role as underwriters of bank credit and directors of monetary policy.

So, the State provides a deposit guarantee to the private banks in exchange for outsourcing to them the underwriting of trade credit and the creation of money as credit. The monetary authorities are supposed to keep track of the monetary mass created in this way, and curtail credit creation through their banking supervisory role if they see the monetary mass grow too much. If the monetary mass shrinks, the monetary authorities can inject money into the economy, by lowering interest rates or by buying bonds (issued by the State treasury or private firms) with newly created money.

Private banking for profit has an incentive to create as much credit as possible, as this results in higher personal income for the private bankers. This means that normally the central bank has to worry more about curtailing excessive private credit creation than about injecting money into the economy. But note that the conflict of interest inherent in private banking, where private bankers have an incentive to create as much credit as possible, whether the borrowers are creditworthy or not, in order to skim a fraction as personal profit, coupled with the identity of credit and money and the State guarantee of bank credit implicit in the explicit deposit guarantee, makes excessive private banking credit creation a form of counterfeiting.

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 28th, 2010 at 07:01:02 AM EST
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But the contrast between banks that actually perform due diligence investigations on borrowers, verifying income and recent tax returns, obtaining an estimate from a licensed estimator, and a home inspection report and "mortgage broker" boiler rooms that are allowed to pump out high interest NINJA loans with no restraint from the responsible central bank authorities is not too hard to make. But perhaps these more obvious excesses did not occur in Spain.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri May 28th, 2010 at 09:00:47 AM EST
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When we compare those boiler rooms to "casino gambling" I fear we're giving casinos a bad name. Casinos skim 5% of the volume of gambling, just like the boiler rooms, but when someone shows up and wants to count cards and game the system by taking from the casino, the casino manager doesn't go along with it. First off, such counting of cards is illegal.

Not so in the banking system.

by Upstate NY on Fri May 28th, 2010 at 10:58:38 AM EST
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There are two problems:

There are at least three. The third is the poisoning of the minds of almost all economists trained since the '70s and the pollution of the public discourse with Neo-Classical Economic blather. That also needs to be hit upon regularly in order to push back against the madness upon us.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 27th, 2010 at 10:19:23 PM EST
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Of course in Spain, a party that has not been in power, such as Izquierda Unida, would have no apologies to make, but would have its own baggage to deal with. What is needed is something that is reasonably liberal on social issues but pretty much middle of the road consensus on everything else but the economy.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 27th, 2010 at 10:30:46 PM EST
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