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Israel and Turkey: no love lost | 87 comments (87 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (4.00 / 2)

Trying to throw out Turkey could be ugly enough to bring down the whole structure. Is there a formal process?

Wait this is important. Someone is wrong on the Internet.

by generic on Tue Jun 1st, 2010 at 12:15:39 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (4.00 / 2)

Any signatory may demand renegotiation of the treaty. So yes, there is a formal process.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jun 1st, 2010 at 12:59:11 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (none / 1)

They won't be kicking anyone out. They will just have to live with people being pissed at each other.

It's not the first time.

by Upstate NY on Tue Jun 1st, 2010 at 11:43:15 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (none / 0)

But if Turkey is really pissed it can just sit there and veto everything. Then we're back to buy off or throw out.

Wait this is important. Someone is wrong on the Internet.

by generic on Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 at 03:14:20 AM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (4.00 / 5)

No; Turkey's current solutions are to continue advancing with the tools that others should have been using for the last decades. They will give them a moral positioning world-wide and be remembered in the region for the boldness that it is for a long time.

International Court
Their own country courts
Turkish ships of war to escort the next flotilla

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 at 05:53:37 AM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (4.00 / 3)

One problem in this is that Turkey is not signatory to any covenants on international laws of the sea, and has not acknowledged the right of international courts over the sea.

by Upstate NY on Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 at 09:07:48 AM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (none / 1)

Ah, well...hmmm. Just when I had the world tending toward balance again.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 at 04:06:55 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (none / 1)

Might be a good time for them to sign. If they don't want to do that they could declare a state of war and demand non-military cooperation from NATO signatories. And the "law of the sea" is much older than the recent treaties, anyway. They could always act in accordance with the latest treaty and ask why they should sign if other signatories won't act on their obligations.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:21:29 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (none / 1)

Not the best precedents to set, though.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:33:30 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Turkey: no love lost (none / 1)

It's amazing how many countries manage to act in ways that set not so good precedents.

_{aspiring to genteel poverty}

by edwin (eeeeeeee222222rrrrreeeeeaaaaadddddd@@@@yyyyaaaaaaa) on Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 at 07:48:49 AM EST
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