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Don't disagree, but it should be possible to tabulate "unique" views. I don't know if that is done now at MyDD, but it should be possible. Comments too can be inflated, especially by the diarist, who might add related material in the comments section. Only recs are unlikely to be duplicated. The problem with recs is that registered people who disagree with the tenor of a diary may not be inclined to rec, even though they have read the diary.

It is all imperfection, but these measures are all we have.

by shergald on Thu Jun 10th, 2010 at 10:43:46 AM EST
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Comments too can be inflated, especially by the diarist, who might add related material in the comments section.
As has been pointed out to you repeatedly, the way this here community blog has chosen to cultivate over the past 5 years is to post related content as comments in the same diary, especially if the comment thread is recent, in preference to posting an entirely new diary, especially if the new content is just a clipping and link to an outside source of news or commentary.

That is not considered inflating the comment count since we don't particularly run a comment-counting competition so nobody much cares that "my diary has more comments than your diary".

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 10th, 2010 at 11:20:02 AM EST
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It might be possible to count comments by everyone but the diarist. But, as you said, anything can be artificially inflated.

fairleft
by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Thu Jun 10th, 2010 at 01:02:54 PM EST
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What, the diarist is not supposed to reply to comments about their own diary?

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 10th, 2010 at 01:17:08 PM EST
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No, I'm saying if a site decided to use number of comments as one (still imperfect) measure of 'popularity', you could improve that measure by not including the diarists' comments in the comment total.

Enough meta. My sense is taht you and Jake are just irritated by 'too many P/I diaries'. I understand and am supportive of non-overwhelming-ness. But it's funny, because the 'problem' is entirely due to the fact that I've published 3 or 4 of them in the last couple weeks, adding them to Shergald's steady output, and that completely throws off the 'balance' here. So, because there are relatively few diaries published here, sometimes there are glitches (during times of particularly egregious Israeli conduct). It's just the way things go here, ebb and flow.

Not that I will lose interest in I/P, but as usual there are other things I'm very interested in. Unfortunately, right now it's the expensive and just up and running South African high-speed train line, which I think is a great example of HST white elephantism. And this site is semi-officially a pro-HST site, so I'm reluctant to post my perspective on that. If I do, though, I'll make sure to include some groovy train pics.

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Thu Jun 10th, 2010 at 01:32:36 PM EST
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The glut was mostly due to the Gaza Flotilla saga, and its aftermath. Couple a week before that on average was no big deal. In fact, no too long ago, someone asked why I kept posting diaries when nobody was reading them. That's just the point: without data on views we don't know that. Equating recs and comments with with readership is just not valid.

by shergald on Thu Jun 10th, 2010 at 02:27:00 PM EST
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