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My major concern is allowing mark to market on the up-side but not requiring it on the down side. Over and over.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jul 13th, 2010 at 11:07:25 AM EST
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They already mark a loss when debtors' credit deteriorates and a profit when it improves.

The scandal, WTF-ery and double-taking comes about when the same rules are applied to their own obligations, whereby if your credit deteriorates you book a profit and if it improves you book a loss.

But, of course, tweaking accounting rules in good times to overstate the upside and in bad times to understate the downside is, apparently, par for the course. There wasn't a lot of outrage when the US Congress debated relaxing mark-to-market rules in late 2008...

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 13th, 2010 at 11:55:42 AM EST
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There wasn't a lot of outrage...

Certainly not from the financial sector or their hirelings. And, as bizarre as it seems, I cannot rule out the possibility that they have written credit default swaps on themselves and booked profits when they declined, whether they held them or sold them. Wall Street is worse than a casino. At least a casino has some rules by which it is required to abide. Wall Street mostly makes up and changes rules to suit itself at any given moment.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jul 13th, 2010 at 12:08:38 PM EST
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The average US citizen - see any number of diaries and discussions on dKos - doesn't understand what is going on.  Most US citizens don't even understand the Federal Reserve system ... which IMHO is the easiest part of the US FIRE complex to grasp.

The ignorance stems from them trying to talk about it from that "common sense" and "Appeal to Authority" stance we were talking about the other day?

But I really don't know.

by ATinNM on Tue Jul 13th, 2010 at 12:16:07 PM EST
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The average US citizen - see any number of diaries and discussions on dKos - doesn't understand what is going on.

That is obvious every time you see a commenter asking for advice on his 401(k)...

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 13th, 2010 at 02:19:35 PM EST
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