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"Corruption is a traditional value" is a far superior rhetorical or polemical formulation of the concept. It will force those who hold tradition paramount to reconsider their toleration of that particular "old way". Were I Doyle I would use that phrase or "It appears that corruption is also a traditional value" as the summary line of an indictment of Fianna Fail in a political campaign. Could be the salvation of the Greens and the death of Fianna Fail. Else, the coalition will likely be the death of the Greens.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jul 20th, 2010 at 10:08:52 AM EST
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The Greens were supposedly there to bring some ethical oversight to the Government.  They have been bought off and are already effectively politically dead for the foreseeable future.  Boyle doesn't have to engage in that rhetoric.  Everyone knows the reality - although many have tolerated it for far too long because they gained from it or because they couldn't see what harm was caused to the common good by it.  Everyone can see the harm now.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:03:04 AM EST
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How many Greens would have to defect to bring down the government?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:44:24 AM EST
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The Irish Green Party only has 6 seats but the Government also has a number of ex-Fianna Fail and other independents it can usually rely on.  In practice, it would take the Greens not supporting a critical vote like the December budget vote whioch no one else will want to support to bring the Government down.

That is what Boyle is alluding to - the fact that there is no political will for the further 3 Billion in Govt. spending cutbacks which are expected to be required to meet budgetary requirements and foreign "investor sentiment".

But as of now the Greens are fully tied in and will lose whatever they do - support unpopular cutbacks or be seen to have no bottle and cut and run.  The principle of the cutbacks has already been agreed.  The question to be decide is where they will fall.  If the greens get their carbon taxes, water charges, recycling charges, and token taxes on bankers etc. they will probably continue to cave...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Jul 20th, 2010 at 12:06:27 PM EST
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