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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 09:08:43 AM EST
Romanian Foreign Affairs minister: the association of offering Romanian citizenship to Moldovans and illegal immigration in the EU is an artificial problem - Top News - HotNews.ro
The association made between Romania's decision to offer citizenship for Moldovans and illegal immigration in the EU is an artifical problem, Romania's Foreign Affairs minister Teodor Baconschi declared. He said that even though the international press wrote about this issue, he prefers not to consider it a press campaign on this matter. 
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:01:37 AM EST
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Tory tension over 'Brokeback coalition' - Channel 4 News
Speaking unguardedly at a lunch with ex-colleagues, senior Tory backbencher David Davis repeated a jibe that the David Cameron-Nick Clegg partnership was the "Brokeback coalition".

He said Lord Ashcroft had first suggested the comparison with the Oscar-winning film, Brokeback Mountain, about a gay relationship.

He also said the Big Society plans were "Blairite dressing", and added that the government "has a mechanism for dealing with the Liberal party, most of whom are inside the coalition. It does not have a mechanism for dealing with the Conservative party, most of whom are outside the coalition."

Financial Times  journalists overheard the exchange at the Boot and Flogger pub in London's Southwark.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:01:55 AM EST
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There's stealing my stuff!

Speaking unguardedly at a lunch with ex-colleagues, senior Tory backbencher David Davis repeated a jibe that the David Cameron-Nick Clegg partnership was the "Brokeback coalition".

He said Lord Ashcroft had first suggested the comparison with the Oscar-winning film, Brokeback Mountain, about a gay relationship.

I asked just a day ago who in this darling couple wore the high heels and bent over.  Dirty stealing bastards!  At least they read ET ... there is that.

Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:31:18 AM EST
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It's a great name and you can hear journalists all over the village itching to find ways of putting it into their stories from here on. This is the defining phrase and it isn't flattering.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:12:22 AM EST
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But who will get the Boot and who will be the Flogger?

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:23:19 AM EST
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Poll: Afghan exit date sought - Politiken.dk

A new Gallup poll shows that 62 percent of Danes want an exit date to be set for a Danish withdrawal from Afghanistan, irrespective of the situation on the ground in the country, according to Berlingske Tidende.

The poll also shows that almost 50 percent want Danish soldiers out of Afghanistan by 2014, with 20 percent accepting the end of 2014 as an exit date. Only seven percent are prepared to leave Danish soldiers in Afghanistan after 2014.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:03:08 AM EST
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Why the fuck are the Danes there at all?  I understand the BS of the UK but the Danes?

Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:33:58 AM EST
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I'm glad you understand the BS of the UK, cos I don't.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:14:24 AM EST
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My uneducated opinion ... the UK/the City is simply an extension of the criminal US government.  So what's the Dane's excuse?

Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:47:30 AM EST
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Why, NATO of course! Of which the current Secretary-General is Anders Fogh Rasmussen... a Dane...

But you may be forgiven (perhaps) for not being aware, from the backwoods of California, of the multiple ways in which the US exercises its hegemony over its vassals. ;)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:58:06 AM EST
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OK, NATO exists.  While the USSR existed I guess NATO had some reasons to go along with US BS.  But why would NATO follow the US's current BS?  Fear of the Russian bear?

Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:07:26 AM EST
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NATO is the US.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:10:23 AM EST
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Really?  Like a 51st state?  Wait!  That's Israel's positon.  52nd is Iraq.  We're trying to make Ashcanistan # 53 but that effort should end the US Empire.  I'm such an optimist.

Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:13:32 AM EST
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Ashcanistan ? not heard that one but it's got a ring.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:32:11 AM EST
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Don't remember the origin ... perhaps from my older brother, God knows when.

Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:35:05 AM EST
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BBC News - One dead and 42 injured as Swiss train derails in Alps

One person was killed and at least 42 others injured when a tourist train derailed in the Swiss Alps, police say.

At least 12 of the injured were said to be in a serious condition.

Most of the passengers on the Glacier Express were Japanese tourists, police said.

Three carriages came off the tracks and two tipped over in the accident, which occurred on a panoramic route between Zermatt and St Moritz.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 12:00:20 PM EST
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FT.com / Europe - Turkish court orders arrest of coup plot suspects
A court in Turkey ordered on Friday the arrest, or in many cases rearrest, of 102 people, including retired military commanders suspected of plotting to overthrow Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's government in 2003.

This year's investigations into the alleged plot code-named Sledgehammer shocked Turkey and aggravated tensions between the AK Party government and the secularist armed forces.
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The arrests highlight a social transition in EU-membership candidate Turkey, as power shifts from traditional secular elites such as the armed forces to a new political class of conservative Muslims, epitomised by Mr Erdogan's AK Party.



"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 05:39:48 PM EST
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No sources, i've only been reading german language reports. So so sad.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 06:04:33 PM EST
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Looks pretty bad.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:26:28 AM EST
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19 die in German festival crush - Channel 4 News
Nineteen people have died and hundreds injured in a stampede at the Love Parade music festival in Germany. Organisers are now saying the festival may never happen again.

More than 300 people have been injured in a crush which took place last night at the Love Parade Festival in Duisberg, Germany.  

The free techno music festival was attended by up to 1.4 million people. The mass panic which caused the stampede occurred in an entrance tunnel to the festival site.  

Reports on French radio this morning said the site could only take half a million. Eye-witness reports were pretty shocking.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:03:10 AM EST
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somebody will be using the word "Hillsborough" at some point. How did they come up with the idea of using the same restricted passage as the sole entrance and exit ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:31:37 AM EST
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Especially with three times the crowd there should have been. Eye-witnesses I heard said the tunnel was crush conditions, and some tried to get away on a staircase with no railing, and when that was overcrowded some fell and were immediately stomped, and then hysteria set in.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:36:01 AM EST
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Police now report that no one died in the tunnel itself: of the 19 dead, 14 died falling from that staircase outside the tunnel, 2 were crushed on a billboard still outside the tunnel, the rest died in the hospital. It seems almost all of those in the tunnel were "only" hurt.

It is clear now from both eyewitness and police reports that the panic was ignited by the storming of and the falls from that staircase. The professor who made the safety analysis said that "no one could have foreseen this" and blamed the people who climbed that staircase. However, critics say something unexpected can always happen, especially with thousands of drugged youth who can't be expected to behave sanely, and the situation in the tunnel in the half hour prior to the panic was already described by eyewitnesses as critical.

Police mis-organisation is also in discussion: whatever role the tunnel and the staircase and the limited size of the site played, there was the crowding in the tunnel prior to the panic that strained people's nerves and also led some to climb of that staircase. Why didn't police keep more people from entering?

The police trade union, individual policemen talking to the media anonymously, a firefighter with name (talking to lawyers), the original inventor of the Love Parade, and several non-experts say that there were warnings ignored and even a larger-scale police safety plan thrown out, and point the blame at the organisers and the city who just wanted to make money.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 09:13:59 AM EST
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Somehow, when you see this;-

there were warnings ignored and even a larger-scale police safety plan thrown out, and point the blame at the organisers and the city who just wanted to make money.

the phrase "nobody could have foreseen" has a mocking quality

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 11:07:04 AM EST
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Yeah. And, the more I read on it, the more I think that there were multiple factors, each of which could have prevented the disaster.

  • Approval of a site with limited capacity: now we learn that the site was approved for a mere 250,000 people! Yet, the event was announced for 500,000, and the real number of people that came is still unclear.

  • Approval of escape routes: now we also learn that in the same approval, the organisers were released from the obligation regarding the width of escape routes.

  • The staircase at the epicentre of panic: according to further eyewitness reports, the staircase was opened by police, and that act already worsened the situation, because everyone tried to move that way. Now a single staircase, that's a real bottleneck. No wonder those who fell from the staircase were trampled under.

There was a big press conference yesterday with representatives of all the responsible (the organisers, the city leadership and bureaucrats who gave the questionable approvals, police leaders), but it was a bizarre event, with everyone refusing to answer questions of substance, and then a police leader visibly on the verge of tears gave a statement that there is full cooperation with investigators but no details will be revealed to media to protect his underlings.

Also, SPIEGEL reports (in the above linked article) it has information that at at least one police center, electronic data was wiped.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 03:48:49 AM EST
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Let's also be clear, the Love Parade founders had given up on the concept years ago, after mostly brilliant success at spreading the love and peace vibe.
This love parade was sponsored by McFit (health club chain), and its organizers have virtually nothing to do with the original spirit of the beautiful event. Also, bankrupt Duisburg wanted to capitalize on this, without being able to put in place proper planning.
the name remained love parade, but this was the free market version.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 02:19:29 PM EST
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I note that the Love Parade founders gave up after getting ever more obligations that ould have costed money :-)

The Love Parade was started with a trick: it was announced as a political protest march, thus security and cleanup was organised and paid by Berlin. In the last few years however, the political protest trick didn't work, and especially the heaps of rubbish left behind by the partypeople and the protection of parks was a cost factor difficult to meet without sponsors and tickets.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 03:54:33 AM EST
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The victims will sue Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Minister of Defense Ehud Barak, Minister of Foreign Affairs Abigdor Lieberman, Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Dan Meridor, Minister of Strategic Affairs Moshe Yaalon, Interior Minister Eli Yishai, Minister without portfolio Benny Bergin and Israeli Navy Commander Vice Admiral Eliezer Marom.

Due to a legal reform which limited Spanish authority to cases in which the victims are nationals, the lawsuit focuses on three Spanish citizens, the plaintiffs said.

Read more...



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 02:13:27 AM EST
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