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Sarrasin (plante) - Wikipédia

Le sarrasin (Fagopyrum esculentum Moench) est une plante à fleurs annuelle de la famille des Polygonacées cultivée pour ses graines consommées en alimentation humaine et animale.

or in English buckweath. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 30th, 2010 at 02:18:33 AM EST
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That is another correct meaning of the word, of course. As the origin of the surname, though, it would seem to be less likely than a swarthy ancestor.

You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Mon Aug 30th, 2010 at 02:09:08 PM EST
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As usual, a trip to wikiland was in order:

John of Damascus, in a polemical work typical of this attitude described the Saracens in the early 8th century thus: -
There is also the people-deceiving cult (threskeia) of the Ishmaelites, the forerunner of the Antichrist, which prevails until now. It derives from Ishmael, who was born to Abraham from Hagar, wherefore they are called Hagarenes and Ishmaelites. And they call them Saracens, inasmuch as they were sent away empty-handed by Sarah (ek tes Sarras kenous); for it was said to the angel by Hagar: "Sarah has sent me away empty-handed" (cf. Book of Genesis xxi. 10, 14).

Sarah, of course, being Abraham's missus, who probably was the first to mistreat a maid (Hagar). Although, since Abraham was 10 generations down from the Ark Builder (and 20 only from Adam) one assumes that attitudes to servants may have strayed much earlier and made it into the smuttier pages of the Enoch Tribune - which  unfortunately collapsed when it put up a paywall prior to the Flood.

The Flood of course would have destroyed all copies of the Enoch Tribune for all time, so we are unable to read what people of the time thought about celebrity of biblical proportions.

What is the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, if not a photo-op?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Aug 30th, 2010 at 02:52:38 PM EST
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Both the English and French dictionaries I'm looking at give the origin (via Greek and Late Latin) as an Arabic word meaning eastern, oriental.

The Online Etymology Dictionary says this is not certain and quotes Sarah.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 30th, 2010 at 03:16:30 PM EST
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Buckwheat used to be called Saracen wheat in English. In French too, the old term was blé sarrasin. Doubtless because of the association with dark colour.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 30th, 2010 at 03:11:59 PM EST
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