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Genetic Information, Health Insurance, and "Socialized Medicine" - Maxine Udall (girl economist)

I gained some insight into this recently when an elderly relative started complaining about "Obamacare" and how it would lead to "socialized medicine." Knowing the person had heart surgery courtesy of Medicare and was receiving ongoing monitoring and care, I said, "I didn't realize you were so unhappy with Medicare." To which I received the reply: "I'm not talking about Medicare, I'm talking about socialized medicine."

"How is Medicare different from socialized medicine?" I asked.

"Medicare isn't socialized," came the reply. "I pay for it. I pay every month and when I've had surgery, I've had to pay some of it. Medicare is like any other insurance."

"Well," I said, "I know you're paying a premium for Part B and I know there are copayments and deductibles, but Medicare is a government run health insurance program."

To which the reply was: "But I'm talking about socialized medicine. You know that whenever the government gets involved in anything, it never does a good job."

"I had no idea you were having problems with Medicare." said I. "I always had the impression you were pretty satisfied with it. And with the VA, too. I know you've used the VA for some care recently. What problems have you had with Medicare or the VA?"

"Well, none with Medicare or the VA, but I'm not talking about Medicare. I'm talking about socialized medicine."

"So you're happy with Medicare?"

"Yes."

"Would you mind if your [adult] children could buy into it? Your son is unemployed. Would it be OK if he could buy into Medicare?"

"Well, sure. As long as he has to pay like I do."

You were all wondering how someone could say, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare?" Well, there you have it.



Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Tue Aug 31st, 2010 at 02:27:26 PM EST
From Maxine Udall's home page, under "about":

Joan Robinson (girl economist): Richard T. Ely Lecture to the American Economics Association, 1972 (published in AER, 1972, 62(1/2): 1-10)
"A sure sign of a crisis is the prevalence of cranks. It is characteristic of a crisis in theory that cranks get a hearing from the public which orthodoxy is failing to satisfy. ... The cranks are to be preferred because they see that there is a problem."

That was the year the AEA made the mistake of making John Kenneth Gailbraith president.  :-)

You go, girl!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Aug 31st, 2010 at 02:56:52 PM EST
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So if people start to listen to us, does that mean we're cranks?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Aug 31st, 2010 at 03:21:27 PM EST
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This crowd is way beyond being cranks. You're bordering on being sane. Now to get to effective.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Aug 31st, 2010 at 03:29:56 PM EST
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Do you ever have the opportunity to have conversations on these subjects with the students you are tutoring? That is the beginning of being effective. Best to start with getting across the scope of the problem. Once they have grasped that, prospects such as the disintegration of the USA become frightening, or perhaps hopeful, possibilities instead of crazy ideas. But before you want to see California as a successor state consider that it is currently one of the top five basket cases.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Aug 31st, 2010 at 11:16:43 PM EST
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No sweat, right now they're not.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 31st, 2010 at 03:30:32 PM EST
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