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It comes down to authenticity. The reason more and more progressives aren't willing to "clap louder" for Obama is they don't feel that's an authentic reflection of their perceptions and interpretations of what is happening. So they prefer to vent their frustrations, since venting is one of the few avenues left available to most people in the Western European/North American political context.

Helen had it absolutely right in 2007: Obama raised expectations very high, and is crashing hard since those expectations have not yet been fulfilled. Sniping from the sidelines is really only the above-water part of the iceberg; the deeper and very real problem is that below the water line is a huge mass of voters who have returned to their position of alienation from the political process as a result of Obama's failures.

While we can and must debate the specific nature and reasons for those failures, as far as I can tell, it comes down to the economy. Most Americans do not feel any more secure or hopeful today than they did when they went to the polls in November 2008. In fact, the uneasy stability many Americans feel - at least those who were lucky enough to keep their jobs - is now in question as a double-dip recession and massive state and federal budget austerity looms.

I've seen this play out on the ground here on California's Central Coast. When Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger nominated Republican State Senator Abel Maldonado to become Lieutenant Governor (and he was confirmed by the state legislature in April), it opened up a seat here on the Central Coast. The two leading candidates were progressive Democrat John Laird, who used to represent Monterey and Santa Cruz in the State Assembly, and Sam Blakeslee, a Republican Assemblymember from San Luis Obispo. I did some work for the Laird campaign running its online operations during the two rounds of the special election held this summer.

The 15th State Senate district has a majority Democratic registration and Obama won it with a 20-point margin in November 2008. Nevertheless, on August 17, the Republican, Blakeslee, won the seat by a 4-point margin.

What happened? Arnold Schwarzenegger and Meg Whitman (the Republican candidate for governor, who is much further to the right than Arnold) both played major roles in depressing Democratic turnout. Arnold picked a summer special election date to fill the seat, which usually means lower Democratic turnout. Whitman, who is quietly building a significant field operation across California, used the race to test-drive that operation as well as to beat back Democratic efforts to win a 2/3 majority in the State Senate.

They were aided by widespread alienation, frustration, and anger among Democratic voters. Volunteers that were calling regular Democratic voters encountered hostility among these voters, who didn't want to hear about the special election but wanted to complain or vent about other issues, mostly having to do with Congress or Obama. It was very difficult to get them to focus on this race, even when we reminded them that Laird had served them well as a popular Assemblymember from 2002 to 2008.

These are the types of voters that Democrats need to win in November - and these are the types of voters who have already reached their verdict on the first two years of the Obama administration. They're unhappy, and with good reason. The disappointment is palpable and legitimate. And folks have a hard time hiding from those authentic feelings, and so some choose to share them, while others just check out.

I see that Drew Westen put this better than I just did, but hopefully my comments have been edifying.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 03:39:37 AM EST
What Created the Populist Explosion and How Democrats Can Avoid the Shrapnel in November  Drew Weston

To say that the American people are angry is an understatement. The political brain of Americans today reflects a volatile mixture of fear and fury, and when you mix those together, you get an explosion. The only question at this point is how to mitigate the damage when the bomb detonates in November.The bad news is that it's too late for Democrats to do what would have been both good policy and good politics (and what the House actually did do), namely to pass a major jobs bill when it was clear that the private sector couldn't keep Americans employed. The "Obama Doctrine" should have been that Americans who want to work and have the ability to contribute to our productivity as a nation should have the right to work, and that if the private sector can't meet the demand for jobs, we have plenty of roads and bridges to fix, new energy sources to develop and manufacture, and schools to build and renovate so our kids and workers returning for training can compete in the 21st century global economy. From having spent much of the last four years testing messages on a range of issues, from immigration to taxes and deficits, I can say with some certainty that nothing John Boehner or Eric Cantor could say could come within 30 points of generating the enthusiasm -- particularly among swing voters -- of a message that began, "We don't have a shortage of work ethic in this country, we have a shortage of work." That message resonates across the political spectrum. And it isn't even the strongest message we've tested in the last weeks or months that beats back the toughest deficit-cutting language the other side can muster. (Emphasis added)

Great article, Montereyan! Your excellent comment more amplifies, extends and illustrates that article than recapitulates or summarizes. The part I put in bold illustrates just the sort of approach that could bring victory and even waves of small contributions were it systematically hammered home. It is the sort of message that Obama should have been pushing -- except for his unfortunate dependence on and identification with his Wall Street buddies.

Pete Peterson, Jamie Dimon and Lloyd Blankfein would take severe umbrage were Obama to take such a tone. Unfortunately for Obama, they have already taken umbrage at MUCH less aggressive comments from the WH, so he is well on his way to alienating everyone. The best hope is that he will become Secretary-General of the UN, President of the World Bank or Managing Director the IMF in or shortly after 2012. Given the footprint of the USA, that might be a mercy to all and a salve to Obama's ego.

The great mass of people are desperate for a hopeful alternative and are rejecting the standard diet of bad choices that establishment politics has on offer. A third party campaign that started in Dec. 2010 with such a platform and a stated intent to caucus with the Democrats, but on their own terms, could become an irresistible force by the summer of 2012. Meanwhile, it could make the whole edifice and brand of Mainstream Economics toxic in the public sphere.

 

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 10:15:38 AM EST
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I think that could work, Geez. It's appeal is obvious, but I suspect the groundwork would have to be done--yesterday.

What would be the biggest, most obvious obstacles?
-Money
-A mind-boggling media assault labeling the whole thing political terrorism, with a generous helping of "They'll kill what remains of our economy" thrown in.
- the very real risk of another Robert Kennedy event.

That said, I'd work for that campaign, as long as the candidate wasn't a bible-waving fundamentalist dingbat or a Beckwit.
Note that the slogan is not incompatible with some pretty unsavory candidates.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 11:09:22 AM EST
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I have considered  a temporary, broad based party of Reform that only promises a few things:

  1. Enact campaign reform that provides public support to candidates without restricting private donations and requires donations be publicly disclosed by the recipients before the money can be accepted.

  2. Vigorously prosecute fraud in the financial sector. Appoint Bill Black to lead a Financial Sector Fraud Unit and fund it at $200 million/year for four years. Simultaneously use regulatory powers to force the TBTFs to take back all the crap that has been dumped on the Fed's Maiden Lane SIVs and on Fanny and Freddy and mark to market all assets. Attempt to coordinate with other governments to minimize the fall out, but if this is not quickly forthcoming, let the chips fall where they may.

  3. Do a public audit of the Fed and a public assay of what ever precious metal reserves the US Government may still have, preparatory to revising the legislation governing the Fed and with referrals for prosecution as indicated. Not only do we need to know what they have been doing, but this will pull in the libertarians and paleocons.

  4. Support energy independence and economic growth through renewable energy and upgraded domestic electric infrastructure. Fund this with Bruce's 10c/gal (or greater) tax on imported oil. Provide federal financing for publicly owned high capacity lines from existing grid tie-ins to the Texas panhandle and the entire front range of the Rockies. (T. Boone Pickins, check. Stake through Dick Cheney - check.)

  5. Enact significant corporate taxes on foreign labor content of manufactures. Revise all tax codes to eliminate any tax benefits to "outsourcing" and to mergers and acquistions. (Paul Craig Roberts -- check)

  6. Repeal the Keep America Safe Act and all other such legislative infringements on civil liberties. Brand this act as being, in fact, The Turn America Into a Police State Act.

  7. Withdraw from Iraq, Afghanistan and, at a minimum, reduce our troop levels in Korea, Japan and Germany. Cut the size of the US military by half and reduce the Pentagon budget by half. Even the  Secretary of Defense says reductions are needed.

  8. Agree on a four year standstill on social issues, broadly defined. In the kind of economic environment into which we are headed, absent this kind of reform, the changes here are likely to be reactionary anyway.    

 

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 12:42:02 PM EST
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There is definitely a place and a hunger for a politics that would get at exactly what you describe. I don't know if a third party effort will happen - too many progressives still feel burned by the Nader campaign of 2000 - but whatever form it takes, it's a lot better than railing at the failure of Obama to abandon his banker friends or the Washington establishment to actually provide the leadership and the message that Americans want and expect to hear.

And the world will live as one
by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 12:16:05 PM EST
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. . . the deeper and very real problem is that below the water line is a huge mass of voters who have returned to their position of alienation from the political process as a result of Obama's failures.

Why is greatre popular enlightenment on the political process a problem? Voters are pushed again up against the hard truth: it's a pay to play system and those who can't pay are chumps. Only moving forward after first understanding that reality, voters and former voters now need to work out how they're gonna change the political process so it actually becomes reasonably democratic. I don't think anyone actually has any idea how citizens are gonna do that 'within the political process', but I'm just sayin'. . . .

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 11:46:52 AM EST
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People alienated from the political process become apathetic.  Apathy is not a basis for action.
by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 12:15:11 PM EST
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Alienation --> Depression. A classic way out of depression is via anger.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 12:49:53 PM EST
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And we're seeing that played-out by the Teabaggers, et. al.

The GOP has managed to capture and stoke the anger of their base.  The Dems are woefully out of touch with their base and haven't.

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 12:57:23 PM EST
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Instead, Gibbs et al are telling the progressives that they are the problem and to just STFU or get a Republican House. The Obama WH can't focus the anger of their base because they are fronting for the only fitting target for that anger. Thus they become the pinnata donkey. Of course that is the fault of their base.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:10:32 PM EST
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Yup.

The current crop of Dem pols have forgotten, if they ever knew, how to do retail (precinct) politics.  Until they get over themselves they won't learn.

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:15:09 PM EST
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Remember that in the 1990s, Democrats were told that retail politics is for suckers, and that the way you win is by pleasing the big corporations. Bill Clinton's success, especially in getting re-elected in 1996 after the disaster that was the 1994 election (which is itself similar to what's shaping up for 2010), convinced even reluctant Democrats that you won elections by raising a lot of money from corporations that you then spent on bland TV ads, and once elected, implementing pro-corporate policies to keep the money coming.

Obama showed that another way was possible, but as we now know without any doubt, he was never committed to the grassroots-supported model of political campaigns. And in return, the grassroots is starting to desert him. Even OFA (Organizing For America, the remnant of the 2008 Obama For America campaign organization that was absorbed into the DNC after the election) has seen a huge dropoff on the number of volunteers it gets for its activities and a big unsubscribe rate in its emails (they used to have a list of 13 million, but I'd be surprised if they get 1 million people regularly reading what they send out).

And that's because Obama revealed himself to be an acolyte of Reagan and Clinton, someone who believes deeply in the righteousness of the elite and who disdains populist concerns. Hopefully the wreckage of the November 2010 elections can become creative destruction instead of plain old destruction, and fuel some better and smarter progressive activism.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:52:01 PM EST
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But, coopted into being a wing of the Democratic Party, it refuses to go there.

Wikileaking will not stop the war in Afghanistan; truth telling and punditeering can play only an antiwar support role. They are supposed to support a robust antiwar movement, by a citizenry angry about its young men and women getting killed for no reason, angry about killing Afghanistan civilians for no good reason, angry about wasting half a trillion dollars a year on military imperialism when that money needs to be spent at home, and then expressing that anger massively and in ways that cannot be ignored.

http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2010/8/24/14490/3940

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:52:50 PM EST
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They were aided by widespread alienation, frustration, and anger among Democratic voters. Volunteers that were calling regular Democratic voters encountered hostility among these voters, who didn't want to hear about the special election but wanted to complain or vent about other issues, mostly having to do with Congress or Obama. It was very difficult to get them to focus on this race, even when we reminded them that Laird had served them well as a popular Assemblymember from 2002 to 2008.

Right there is everything that's wrong with the Democratic Party.  

When people are alienated, frustrated, and angry they don't give a flying fart about some goddamn election.  They want to be valued; they want to be valued as a person, as someone who matters.  THEN they want to see action based on their concerns.

Are any of these people being called back by someone who will listen and then can and will actually do something?  Of course not.  And that means every single one of those people who were called have just been given Real World evidence they don't matter.  Their concerns don't matter.  They might as well jump off a cliff as expect anybody in the Party to care about them, what they think, or what they are going through.  John Laird, no matter what he has done, has now, by association, been appraised by a goodly number of the people who were called as someone who thinks they don't matter, their concerns don't matter, and they might as well jump off a cliff as expect him to care about them.

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 12:41:41 PM EST
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John Laird should get a copy of that list and start calling each one and doing just what you suggest -- listen to them - and apologize for not having had his organization do this at the time. Then incorporate the responses into a program and mail them a copy. It would be a start.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 12:54:53 PM EST
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Bet those call sheets, the ones that haven't been sent to a landfill, are sitting in a box.  

Laird's staff needs to prep him for those meetings/calls by constructing a Farley File.  Cold calling won't do much good and could easily do him a great deal of harm; after all, those people have already "told" him stuff and he needs to address their issues to stop the rot not what he thinks their issues should be.

If that makes any sense.

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:09:35 PM EST
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You have a better command of the practical tactics.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:23:58 PM EST
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I had the good fortune to meet some of the shakers-and-movers of the old time machines before they (both) died off.  Very informative.  One such bit of info was why Pendergast asked Truman to be their candidate for Senator.  Basically Pendergast was on the phone with the St. Louis people and he bet them $20,000 he could take the next dweeb to walk through his door and elect him as Senator.

Truman turned out to be the dweeb.

LOL

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:45:35 PM EST
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That's an excellent point, one that I'll pass along.

And the world will live as one
by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:44:15 PM EST
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Farley's are used by pricey restaurants to personally welcome revisitors - especially those with expense accounts. I've even read of FR technology being used at the entrance or MD's desk.

An expense accounter, who brings in important clients or partners to a restaurant, loves to be greeted with a detail that shows he is a 'regular' and thus has 'clout'.

I fall for it myself - even when alone.


You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 02:03:41 PM EST
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It's easy to be cynical about "Personalized Marketing," like a Farley File.  

The fact is: you can't remember everything you'd like to remember.  A Farley File is everything you'd like to remember about a person, but can't.

It's not the tool, it's the intent of the person using it.

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 03:38:10 PM EST
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Agreed. Most of my clients get a lecture about that.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 04:30:41 PM EST
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That is all sensible. Laird himself definitely connects with people and is quite good at valuing people as if they matter, which he genuinely believes they do.

The problem is that in a State Senate district with 900,000 people, it's not easy to make that clear to a mass audience. He was out there at numerous public events and when he was able to talk directly to voters, it made a big difference - turnout was up between the June 22 primary and the August 17 general elections and the places it was up was where Laird was able to get to people one-on-one.

However, the campaign never quite had the funding it needed, and when it did, before June 22, the campaign managers chose to listen to the paid consultant who argued that voters should be scared into voting against Blakeslee because he supports offshore oil drilling. It didn't quite work, and after June 22 we developed some of our own messaging that was more targeted to voter concerns about education and jobs - but we lacked the funding to do a big TV ad buy (which I know isn't the same as directly connecting with voters, but it'd have helped).

I've never thought much of phonebanking, and though it worked well in the fall of 2008, you've identified a big drawback - it doesn't work when voters are feeling alienated, as the act of having volunteers call on your behalf reinforces the alienation (whereas in 2008 it reinforced the notion of a popular movement to elect Obama). I'm not sure what the tactical method of implementing a better method of voter contact would be - that's not to dismiss your point at all, only to say that operationalizing it is easier said than done.

This is one reason why Democrats, especially progressives, struggle. California's State Senate seats have more population than a Congressional seat (900K for State Senate, 800K for Congress). This seat in particular is about 250 miles long and spread out over five large counties, making direct voter contact extremely difficult.

In this race that was exacerbated by the fact that the Republican candidate had about a 3-1 funding advantage, with large corporations spending a lot of money on negative TV ads casting Laird as a tax-raising zealot, and with Meg Whitman behind the scenes spending a lot of money to organize a field campaign that dwarfed what the Democrats had to offer.

Again, none of those points are intended as excuses, but instead as laying out the known obstacles. If a progressive movement is going to succeed, it'll have to figure out how to overcome those obstacles. So far that hasn't been done.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:42:01 PM EST
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During an election the candidate's time is too valuable to do the kind of retail politics I am urging.  A candidate who is also holding down a political position cannot do the retail AND do his office; they are both more than full time jobs.  This is exactly the reason the leaders of the old time machine never held an important legislative office.  

Meta-Carrot:  building a grassroots/retail political organization has two benefits for Your Guy:

  1.  It keeps him in office - with term limits this IS a Big Deal - building the power and influence on legislation

  2.  It builds his power and reputation within the state and national party

If Laird can bring 250,000 votes, or so, to the table he's going to get listened to.  :-)  

The problem is that in a State Senate district with 900,000 people, it's not easy to make that clear to a mass audience. He was out there at numerous public events and when he was able to talk directly to voters, it made a big difference - turnout was up between the June 22 primary and the August 17 general elections and the places it was up was where Laird was able to get to people one-on-one.

You can't make it clear to a mass audience during a campaign.  You can't make it clear to a mass audience, in a mass, period.  Remember, a "mass" is made-up of individuals and the whole point of precinct politics is to build The Mass Bottom/Up.  The payoff for the work is the campaign when you can use Top/Down effectively.

The Top/Down payoff when 10,000 people show up at a Laird speech that the local media has to cover.  That media is not only good publicity it's publicity you don't have to pay for.  And it's media - if the speech writers know their job - that has the sound bites that persuade people to get out and vote for him if the staff has done their homework using the information they've collected from the Bottom/Up operation.  

However, the campaign never quite had the funding it needed, and when it did, before June 22, the campaign managers chose to listen to the paid consultant who argued that voters should be scared into voting against Blakeslee because he supports offshore oil drilling.

Paid consultants have two inter-related major drawbacks:

1.  They don't know the district in their guts the way a local op does (should)

Thus:

2.  They want a lot of money to tell you how to run a generic campaign they know how to run instead of the local campaign you should be running

In your After Action Assessment -- you did do one of those, right? -- you need to carefully look at what the consultant(s) cost in total versus what you bought with that money and then ask yourself if it was worth it.  In short, did the advice and actions based on that advice matter a hill of beans.  It may have.  I don't know.  Also ask if there were other, cheaper, ways to Get the Same Result.  May be, may be not, I don't know.  But if you haven't gone through this you don't know, either.  (that's the generic "you" :-)  

I've never thought much of phonebanking, and though it worked well in the fall of 2008, you've identified a big drawback - it doesn't work when voters are feeling alienated, as the act of having volunteers call on your behalf reinforces the alienation (whereas in 2008 it reinforced the notion of a popular movement to elect Obama). I'm not sure what the tactical method of implementing a better method of voter contact would be - that's not to dismiss your point at all, only to say that operationalizing it is easier said than done.

You did have a Thank You Party for the volunteers with Laird doing a one-on-one, however brief, I hope.  If not. Do It.  Spend the couple of hundred bucks for hot dogs and beer.  Have someone talking down notes to be put in each of their Farley File entry -- you have one, right?

The volunteers who cared enough to come in and make those bloody calls comprise the initial 'hack' at your precinct and other low level operators.  This group needs to be qualified, sieving out the wheat, and then 'brought in,' in some manner into the organization and the Meet-and-Greet at the Thank You is the first step of that process.

Second, the call sheets are a Gold Mine of information and data about his district.  It's a laborious PITA to go through and wring it all out but it's well worth it.  

This is one reason why Democrats, especially progressives, struggle. California's State Senate seats have more population than a Congressional seat (900K for State Senate, 800K for Congress). This seat in particular is about 250 miles long and spread out over five large counties, making direct voter contact extremely difficult.

That's fucked-up but that's the hand you're dealt.  That's also why Your Guy has to start campaigning for the next election now when the time pressure is weaker than during the campaign season.

In this race that was exacerbated by the fact that the Republican candidate had about a 3-1 funding advantage, with large corporations spending a lot of money on negative TV ads casting Laird as a tax-raising zealot, and with Meg Whitman behind the scenes spending a lot of money to organize a field campaign that dwarfed what the Democrats had to offer.

Despite the CW: people aren't stupid.  They know government costs money; they - quite rightfully - object to paying for it while the Big People don't.  Now you know the attack.  They will use next time.  It worked this time, after all.  In those call sheets you've got some district specifics to use. Maybe.  Won't know until you look at 'em.

From here it looks like the GOP max'ed their vote and Dems didn't bother to turn up.  Mostly impossible to get people all twitterpatted about voting for a generic Democrat; it's very possible to get them excited about John Laird.  Local issues trump national issues IF there is an organization capable of effectively using 'em.  

Again, none of those points are intended as excuses, but instead as laying out the known obstacles. If a progressive movement is going to succeed, it'll have to figure out how to overcome those obstacles. So far that hasn't been done.

Progressive movement hasn't been willing to do the slow slogging grunt work and raise the cash required.  They want to show-up 3 months before the election and have everything go their way.  Doesn't work like that. Bernie Sanders was elected to the House and then as a Senator in a formerly solid GOP state because he spent 30 years on the "rubber chicken circuit" going around talking and listening to people.  People knew Bernie so when it came down to it the GOP attacks couldn't get traction.  "He may be an independent Socialist ... but he's our independent Socialist!"

Speaking of that, Your Guy could learn a lot from Sanders by studying How He Do'ed It, the guy himself, or both.

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 03:33:57 PM EST
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AT, you should bookmark this and any other similar comments and comb through earlier comments, plus any thing you have in writing and can think of to the end of putting together a manual - unless a better on already exists. It could be valuable during the next two years in many areas.

There are lots of ways to go about getting a better candidate. In many places it is possible for a progressive to be a successful candidate as a Democrat, and that should be pursued, probably as the first option at this time. In many places there are third parties who qualify for state or federal funding under current rules, if these have not been totally thrown out. A solid third party candidate can put significant pressure on a major party candidate and this can be used in lots of ways. But just having built a progressive infrastructure would be a big step forward. Next time that infrastructure could be instrumental in getting a progressive as the major party candidate.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 04:41:04 PM EST
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Thank you for your kind words.

Realistically, there's thousands of people out there who know, more better than I, what needs to be done and how to do it.  Before Obama wrecked it Dean's 50 State Strategy was the framework for a national implementation.

The knowledge is out there and has been for a long time.  In 1946, for example, Heinlein - yup THAT Heinlein - wrote a book Take Back Your Government based on his experience in EPIC laying it all out -- as I recall, haven't read it in donkey's years.  

All I'm doing is throwing pop bottles out of the left center field bleachers at the on-field players, like Montereyan, whom I'm sure already knows it.

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 05:43:40 PM EST
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Realistically, there's thousands of people out there who know, more better than I, what needs to be done and how to do it.

Like these folks.

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 05:47:42 PM EST
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The problem is that all this institutional knowledge and these organizing skills have been lost to most people. That process started earlier, but by the 1990s it was gone. Folks who learned how to do retail politics and to do effective organizing were either shoved aside or for whatever other reason chose to leave the scene by the mid-90s, so that when a new movement came along in 2002-03 to rebuild a progressive movement from the bottom up, they had to start from scratch and generally didn't have the skilled old hands around to mentor them. Instead they had the '90s-era consultantocracy which STILL dominates Democratic campaigns and the staffs of elected Democratic officials, people who don't really have a clue what they're doing but managed to build their niche between 1995 and 2005 or so and by default were the folks who held the keys when the big influx of activists came in during the '00s.

It pains me to think of where we might be now had the knowledge of the '30s-era activists, or even the '60s and '70s-era folks, been the dominant skillset among the political class. But it isn't, the '90s saw a huge shift toward corporate neoliberalism, and so we have to reclaim that knowledge from the past and relearn those skills ourselves.

I count myself among the latter group - the influx of activists. Until 2008 I was just a blogger. At that time I saw an opportunity to do more than just write, but to actually try and implement change on the ground. I've been lucky enough to find full-time employment at doing so, but everything we do is still too deeply rooted in the '90s model I just described, and not rooted enough in the successful models you've been articulating here.

As progressives start looking around for solutions after the coming disaster on November 2, what you've laid out here ought to be a central part of the discussion.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 07:19:48 PM EST
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Oh the people are there.  They just aren't involved in Democratic Party politics.  Ask around and you'll find them.

What about hooking up with the Santa Cruz people: Gary Patton, Michael Rotkin, and Katherine Beiers?  

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 09:10:15 PM EST
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Gary Patton and I are on opposite sides of the issues - he's spending his time helping Palo Alto and other cities fight the high speed rail project. There are other folks I'm in touch with in Santa Cruz who have the necessary experience and aren't fighting to preserve the status quo, however, who would be much more interested in this stuff.

Maybe we should take this discussion offline? My email's right next to my username.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 09:25:46 PM EST
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Again, these are all excellent points and as far as I can tell you've nailed it on what happened in this particular race - and this story WILL be repeated across the country on November 2, sadly.

I wasn't at the center of the campaign, but have been on very good terms with the candidate since well before this race, and I'm going to send this along to him. I know he will find it very interesting.

Overall I think one reason this sort of thing is not usually done in California - though it should be - is that over the last 10 years in particular, seats have become extremely safe for one party or the other. Laird won the 2002 Democratic primary in the Assembly district and cruised to victory that November, and was easily re-elected in 2004 and 2006. This is the usual way of things for races in California, and combined with the large size of districts as well as the '90s philosophy of "you don't do retail politics" leads most candidates for state legislature or Congress to turn to consultants and TV ads. But in a race where neither party had the obvious advantage, the Republicans exposed the hollowness of this "strategy" that CA Dems have embraced for way too long now.

I'm not a fan of most consultants, and after the first round on June 22, they weren't part of the campaign any more and the vote totals increased for the August 17 general election. Laird might be in a mood to embrace this more sensible long-term kind of thinking, as you have laid out here, especially in its ability to build a longer-lived progressive movement. He was part of similar efforts that were launched and had lasting success in Santa Cruz in the 1980s, but it wasn't tended to after about the mid-90s, as I understand it.

In any case, this whole discussion has been extremely valuable and enlightening. I think you've hit on a central failure of progressive organizing, at a time when we need to sketch out what newer and better tactics would look like.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 07:10:52 PM EST
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They were aided by widespread alienation, frustration, and anger among Democratic voters.

Perhaps they felt like this:



As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 at 01:54:23 PM EST
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