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America is more in the category of the transcendental, durable empires, not the purposeful but more brittle ones like Britain, Russia, Germany, Turkey, and others.  It's an empire because of the particular niche it fills in a world that needs it, not because of some ingrained dreams of megalomania on the part of its some leaders who imagined themselves to be Roman Caesars and tried to play the part.

We can hope, especially if we are able to reform the worst aspects of our system. But we cannot forget that we modeled the structure of the US Government heavily on the Roman Republic, especially the separation of powers. But Washington, especially, warned against involvement in foreign affairs, though that was a practical necessity at the time of our founding. We also took cognizance of the broadest and best survey of existing governance at the time in the form of Montesque's Spirit of the Law. A good argument can be made that the founding fathers would expect future leaders to keep up with developments in understanding how societies can and do operate. We clearly have not.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 12:23:51 AM EST
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Everything you need to know about the US is in Congress - especially the two giant fasces on the back wall.

Philip K. Dick used to suggest that the Roman Empire didn't die at all - it metastasized into the Catholic Church, then the British Empire, then the US Empire.

The biggest revolution yet to come will be civilisation without the mindless insect banality of empire.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 07:30:52 AM EST
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The biggest revolution yet to come will be civilisation without the mindless insect banality of empire.

Can I realistically expect to see this in my lifetime?

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 07:34:46 AM EST
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That's a key difference, however.  America's founders  mythologized the Roman republic.  European rulers  mythologized the later Roman dictatorship. ("Czar" and "Kaiser," for example, are local pronunciations of the informal Roman military title in the last empire, "Caesar.") During all of Rome's period, even the later dictators and their historians mythologized the Roman Republic and Athenian democracy and never employed a formal title like "emperor." (There was never a formal institution for the ruler of the empire in Rome until well into the Byzantine period -- just an informal habit started by Augustus of selecting a leading general of the armies who, as a private citizen of civic will was expected to protect the Roman republic. Kind of like if Warren Buffet were suddenly granted command of a huge private army to replace the poorly managed Pentagon and in return was expected to ensure that politicians uphold the principles of the US constitution.)

Rome was a much less formal affair, rooted in the contradictions of have been a republic, than monarchies of Europe that sprang up afterward claiming divine rights and the titles of kings and emperors to rule and such.  My argument is that America is much more like Rome in that sense as well, as any of the European empires with which it has been compared.

by santiago on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 01:22:32 PM EST
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