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The "Wolf-Child" investigations are rife with problems.  One major, major, problem is evident once one starts looking at the role of social interaction in language acquisition.  In social situations it seems babies -- and baby studies have their own problems -- commence acquiring the phonemes of their Mother Tongue within the first year.  "Babbling" - trying all sounds within the totality of 'Phoneme Space' - is restricted and reinforced by the mother to the ones used in the Mother language.  Language seems to be something we 'Do' - I don't want to say "instinctive!" - as soon as the brain gets 'on-line.'  Without this feed-back I find "Wolf-Child" questionable in regards to providing a basis of generalization.
by ATinNM on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 02:22:39 PM EST
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But the babbling will still be in 'imitation' - seeking to reproduce patterns by trial and error.

Put yourself in the baby's bootees: mum' breast, soft cooing, milk taste and smell, blankies, being held and being warm - these are all synesthesically almost one - to start with. But I imagine (citation needed) that as sensations begin to be 'categorized' or patternized, that 'dialogue' is discovered. "I hear sounds, I make sounds'. The baby is communicating.

And for me, it is communication that leads to enlightenment ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 03:40:17 PM EST
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Babbling starts "spontaneously" and then the babble is slowly refined and defined through feedback from the mother until the sub-set of all possible phonemes used by the Mother Language is acquired.  This is "communication," I suppose; I'd prefer to call it "the earliest stage of language acquisition" as the phrase is less liable to misinterpretation.  And it can be used to set-up valid experiments.  

Not too much later, these phonemes are combined into words and proto-words.  "No" seems to be not only easily learned but the most common of all words used in the first stage of verbal communication.  :-)

Put yourself in the baby's bootees ...

Not unless, and until, I reincarnate.  :-D

Some of the worst papers I've read are Baby Studies claiming all kinds of things ... based on experimenter projection, IMNSHO.
 

by ATinNM on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 04:08:05 PM EST
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Sven Triloqvist:
And for me, it is communication that leads to enlightenment ;-)

I would say it is communication that leads to mutual acknowledgement of consciousness. So Internet will be recognized as soon as it has its own webpage that spontaneously updates :)

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Sep 8th, 2010 at 11:46:58 AM EST
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