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They have everything to do with that and nothing to do with peace.

Obama's Ridiculous Mid-East Summit
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN

The tenor of Israeli politics today is one of fanatic rejectionism of any halt to settlements, any serious concession on borders, beyond a Palestinian "state" in small chunks, hemmed in by Israel's highways and fences, with water diverted and communication between the various fragments of Palestinian territory under rigorous Israeli control and constant harassment. East Jerusalem as the proposed capital of a Palestinisan state  is under incessant invasion of new Jewish housing projects. . . .

For his part, Abbas is no longer president of the Palestinian Authority, which has no democratic mandate among the vast majority of Palestinians. They voted for Hamas and  regard Abbas as a quisling, who exists solely by the favor of US money, Pentagon security advisors and Israeli support. Hamas expressed its opinion of the meeting by killing four Israeli settlers. (Half a million illegal Jewish settlers  have been the most conspicuous consequence of the "peace process.") . . .

http://counterpunch.org/cockburn09032010.html

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by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 07:32:05 PM EST
I will read the article further. Re. the portion you posted,

  1. "small chunks, hemmed in by Israel's highways and fences" is just one of so many descriptions of the bantustans that will eventually define Palestine.

  2. " killing four Israeli settlers" is obviously a horrid way to protest Israel's occupation and colonization of the remaining bits of original Palestine. But what is just as disgusting is Obama's remarks on these killings while having ignored completely, even defending Israel, in its killings of over 1,400 Palestinians, mostly civilians, entire families in many cases, and over 300 children during the 2008-9 blitzkrieg of Gaza by the US supplied Israeli military forces.

It is one thing to kiss ass, as Obama is now doing to appease the Israel Lobby, but it quite another to ignore such atrocities for political expediency, and that would also include the more recent Mara Marvari flotilla massacre. At some point it becomes inexcusable.

by shergald on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:19:30 PM EST
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By the way, Cockburn is assuming when he says the killing of the four settlers was a response to the talks. Hamas says the timing was a coincidence and a matter of an opportunity presenting itself.

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by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:53:04 PM EST
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Not so sure. Hamas has been left out of the so-called peace negotiations, while the siege of Gaza continues pretty much as before. 18% of Palestinians in the West Bank are supporters of Hamas; 25% in Gaza. The West Bank Hamas supporters must certainly have had opportunities in the past to cause such atrocities against Israeli civilians, whatever Hamas now says.

Ignoring Hamas is certainly an Israeli strategy and one that is meaningful: there is no place for a bridge between Gaza and the West Bank in Israel's plans.

by shergald on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 03:17:51 PM EST
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Don't trust those poll numbers; I think I know where you're getting them. The pollster also confidently predicted Hamas would lose the 2006 legislative elections.

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by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Fri Sep 10th, 2010 at 11:13:23 AM EST
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Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR)

"PSR published the results of the exit poll after the closing of the election centers. Our results gave the advantage to Fateh (42% compared to 35% for Hamas). The actual results showed Hamas gaining the advantage with 44% versus Fateh's 41%. In a previous statement, PSR expressed the believe that the error in the prediction was the result of the large number of rejections on the day of elections. A total of 3560, or 17%, of the voters in the sample, refused to be interviewed on the day of election. The rejection, PSR believes was the result of deliberate incitement against pollsters . In order to overcome the problem, we have re-weighted the data to reflect the actual outcome of the elections for the lists in the districts and at the national level. The following results and analysis are based on the re-weighted data which reflect the actual outcome of the elections with the advantage going to Hamas rather than Fateh."

http://www.pcpsr.org/survey/polls/2006/exitplcfulljan06e.html

It is possible that the high numbers of "rejections" were from people who didn't want to admit they switched votes for Hamas. The survey I am referring to I don't believe had that problem. I don't have the time to hunt it up, however.


by shergald on Fri Sep 10th, 2010 at 03:10:50 PM EST
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