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"Lichens," he says, "are fungi that have discovered agriculture."

And in this context, the word discovered means ...

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by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Sep 9th, 2010 at 05:29:02 AM EST
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It's emergent symbiosis: not that different from how we humans have emerged. Simple rules can lead to perceived behavioural complexity. And that's the only difference imo: that we humans (or some of us at least), can reflect upon our behavioural complexity. Doesn't put us in control of it though ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Sep 9th, 2010 at 09:05:07 AM EST
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Yes, the "symbiosis" is not unlike that relationship of humans to a herd of cows. The cows get fed for a while until we untimately butcher them. My question concerns the use of the word "discovered", like "Columbus discovered the New World when looking for India." This is different from the co-evolution of bees and flowering plants.

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by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Sep 9th, 2010 at 01:19:03 PM EST
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Which side does one take in the analogy?

Discovery is the observation or finding of something previously unknown. But I doubt if humans even 'discovered' agriculture. Hundreds of generations probably came between collecting wild plants for eating from the same spot each season, and making a connection between a seed and sprouting.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Sep 9th, 2010 at 01:42:23 PM EST
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