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And Iceland: I still think the glorious icelandish plan to split their banks and give the new part the assets and the old the debts was fraudulent. Especially because the domestic deposits were in the new bank and the foreign deposits in the old. But in the long run they will pay anyway. They already have to some countries.
It's like a spouse discovering that the other spouse is a crook who's defending themselves by saying "You married me for the nice house, so it's your fault I'm a thief."
People are trained - bizarrely - to assume that this economics stuff is far over their heads and they should leave it to the experts without expressing an opinion on it.
But the so-called experts act without oversight or accountability.
When a doctor fucks up badly and kills multiple people, the doctor is - at least - struck off.
Finance has no formal code of conduct, no regulatory body that can ban individuals from working in the industry, and no system for personal accountability when egregious errors are made.
Criminal fraud can be punished, but stupid decisions that ignore even the most basic requirements of due diligence aren't.
Since financiers have no concept of personal responsibility, default isn't just good economic sense, it's also the only option that can send the industry a message about ethical standards.
Ah, right blame the ECB. Because the irish elites who created this low tax no regulation paradise are not blame at all. Instead they got you rooting for them.
Did you miss the part where I argued that the Irish oligarchs need to lose their shirts as well?
Here's a hint:
Then you make two lines on each of the two lists: One line between people you really, really want to save (ordinary bank depositors, industrial firms, etc.) and people you kinda sorta want to save if you can (private pension funds, non-toxic investment banks - if you have any of those left - etc.), and another line between the people you kinda sorta want to save and the evil people who should take a long walk off a short pier (bookies, toxic investment banks, everything with a business address on Canary Wharf). Then you mix the lists like this: Domestic need-to-save Foreign need-to-save Domestic want-to-save Foreign want-to-save Evil (foreign and domestic) All the people on the 'evil' part of the list should ultimately end up losing their shirts completely.
Then you mix the lists like this:
Domestic need-to-save Foreign need-to-save Domestic want-to-save Foreign want-to-save Evil (foreign and domestic)
All the people on the 'evil' part of the list should ultimately end up losing their shirts completely.
And Iceland: I still think the glorious icelandish plan to split their banks and give the new part the assets and the old the debts was fraudulent.
That is a perfectly ordinary bank intervention. There is nothing fraudulent about that, and indeed it is how a bank is put through bankruptcy every month somewhere in the OECD.
But in the long run they will pay anyway.
No. Really, they won't have to pay anybody who isn't going to send a gunboat to Reykjavik.
They may want to pay some of their creditors, because they view their claims as legitimate, or because they want to avoid the political fallout from not paying them. But sovereign states never have to pay their creditors.
- Jake If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.
Because the irish elites who created this low tax no regulation paradise are not blame at all.
They're already fucked. Most of them are down to whatever small numbers of millions they managed to squirrel away in the wife's name. They're not exactly homeless and starving, but they're down to a small percentage of their previous "wealth". The ones that aren't are the ones who were rich before the boom. Some of them are still managing to appear rich, but they're standing in the air at the top of a canyon they just haven't noticed.
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