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We didn't consider the fact that someone might actually be stupid enough to dump cold water on a molten core. Murphy strikes back.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sat Mar 12th, 2011 at 07:38:45 AM EST
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Trying to avoid a meltdown they caused an explosion?

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 12th, 2011 at 07:45:14 AM EST
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Were there or had they made adequate provisions for venting overpressure from the outer containment structure, say by running it through water, they could have just kept adding water until the exterior of the vessel was below boiling. I don't know if they still have intact the means of introducing water into the reactor vessel, but suspect they do. The problem will possibly consist of being limited in the amount of water they can introduce into the vessel by the amount of steam they can vent.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Mar 12th, 2011 at 11:58:15 PM EST
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From the uncertain press releases, it doesn't appear as if they knew the temperature situation in the core enough to know whether there is a meltdown. Which would surprise me -- I'd think that if a water level gauge is working, temperature sensors should too, and there should be lots of them.

Now, about stupid enough: in Swedish or French reactors, can similar stupidity occur, or is such human error somehow contained?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Mar 12th, 2011 at 07:47:17 AM EST
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You could hope that, as with airline safety, protocols will be updated after this thing is investigated to reduce the likelihood of a repeat.

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 12th, 2011 at 07:52:29 AM EST
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well Im sure they will have plenty to talk about here

Lessons from the Chernobyl Disaster - Safety for the Future

To commemorate the 25th anniversary of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, the IAEA, which has monitored radioactivity in the region and worked to reduce exposure to it since the accident, will participate in an international conference designed to ensure that the lessons learned from the accident will bring about lasting improvements in nuclear and radiation safety globally.

IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano will address the international conference,Chernobyl, 25 Years On: Safety for the Future, to be held in Kiev from 20-22 April 2011. The conference, hosted by the Ukrainian government, will focus on sustainable improvements in nuclear and radiation safety, remediation work undertaken in and around the Chernobyl site as well as commemorate the loss of life and suffering.

Experts, including the IAEA, will discuss the technical experience gained in the past quarter-century and strategies and safety procedures to ensure safe nuclear energy operations for the future.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Mar 12th, 2011 at 08:00:04 AM EST
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