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Dear team at European Tribune,

We have been following your organisation's website and reading some of your blog posts over the last few months, as individuals and as members of the Stronger Europe team, a non-affiliated pro-European campaigning group.

We are emailing because we thought you might be interested by our upcoming campaign for the direct election of the President of the European Commission.

We have sought feedback from our readers and twitter followers, and contacted MEPs to ask if they would be willing to table a Written Declaration showing support for the campaign. The feedback we got was generally very positive and we will be launching our campaign site, getting people to contact their MEPs and national representatives asking them to support the campaign.

We wanted to check what your team thought of this campaign and whether you would like to participate or get involved in any way.

We look forward to hearing from you. For more info about us, feel free to check out our blog at blog.strongereurope.com or follow us on twitter @strongereurope

Best wishes,

Clement and the Stronger Europe team.

Does anyone know them? Worth joining. Can anyone investigate and do a diary?

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 12:54:57 PM EST
I'm looking into it. But if anyone else wants to diary about it, that's fine.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 01:08:21 PM EST
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First thing to notice is ET is on their (not long) blogroll.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 01:40:15 PM EST
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flattery 101

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 02:03:13 PM EST
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Second thing to note is The way out of the current European debt (November 1, 2011)
The way out of this deadlock is a stronger Europe. As detailed in our previous policy proposals, through the enforcement of fiscal policies, Europe, as one economic unit, can develop the capacity to raise money on financial markets. This capacity could be used to solve Europe's debt crisis. It would enable Europe to take on part of member states' debt and relieve the pressure on their shoulders in exchange of their binding commitment to respect budgetary sobriety. Additionally, Europe's borrowing capacity should be used to launch a stimulus package boosting member states' growth and therefore enabling them to quickly reach budgetary equilibrium. This stimulus package should encompass areas such as education and infrastructure projects and aim at making Europe a place of opportunities for the coming decade.

We therefore think that the way out of the debt crisis for Europe is to collect taxes to be able to borrow money and:

  • Take on part of the debt of member states to put an end to the current debt crisis
  • Impose a binding commitment to member states to respect budgetary sobriety/equilibrium
  • Invest in a European stimulus package encompassing different areas of growth
Do you agree?


tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 06:09:39 PM EST
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Stronger Europe, not as in "stronger America" but rather as in "strive in a strong union" (in case you were concerned with the adjective choice):
At Stronger Europe, we believe that there are two ways out of these upcoming crises: die weakly divided or thrive in a strong union.

They are a London based team: two French and one Briton in their early 20s. What Mig would rightly call the Erasmus generation.

Apparently, they're getting in touch because of this:

Welcome to Stronger Europe! | Stronger Europe

The second step, due to launch in February 2012, is an online campaigning platform to allow citizens across Europe to effectively campaign for a stronger, better governed Europe guided by the proposals created in our policy discussion.

(that's all I know: I discovered them tonight and just browsed their blog)

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 03:00:28 PM EST
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I'm sceptical that direct election of the Commission President is going to solve any of our problems or make Europe "stonger".

  1. Had Blair run for President of the Commissionin 2009, might he have won?
  2. Had the EPP run Barroso as their candidate, would he have won?
  3. If Europe-wide political parties ran a primary to select their candidate, would voters vote along national lines?


tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 06:06:46 PM EST
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  1. No
  2. Don't know; perhaps.
  3. at first, probably. Hopefully they would give up that behaviour quickly.

We need initiatives to establish a European public badly. I wouldn't have started with the office of a president, but I welcome every initiative of introducing real European elections.
by Katrin on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 06:13:19 PM EST
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So, given the likely answer to 3, why don't we just nominate Merkel as President of Europe? Oh, wait...!

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 15th, 2012 at 06:17:57 PM EST
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Is there reason to suppose pols like Blair or Merkel would run for the office of Commission president?

Though what might happen is a drift towards the office being held by major political leaders.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 01:20:59 AM EST
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Yes, I think egotists like Blair, Merkel and, presumably, Sarkozy believe they are uniquely gifted and thus suited to perpetual high office.

Blair was very interested in the Euro Presidency and was looking forward to accepting it before various rabble rousers and scruffy oiks began to make a nuisance of themselves and all went quiet.

I'm sure Merkozy would enjoy the chance for another 4 years bathed in the light of consequence.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 02:52:57 AM EST
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I believe Blair was surprised about the protests, but Merkel and Sarkozy know they wouldn't get elected, they would not even run. The results would be embarassing for them.
by Katrin on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 03:54:22 AM EST
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It would depend who they ran against. And yo uhave to factor in low voter information, and the natural tendency of voters to follow national or party lines.

Whoever the EPP nominates would probably win. If the EPP member parties can get over their respective nationalistic impulses and agree on a candidate.

Else, you'd get a German speaker.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 04:37:59 AM EST
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Migeru:

Whoever the EPP nominates would probably win. If the EPP member parties can get over their respective nationalistic impulses and agree on a candidate.

But the EPP has a problem in that they do play more heavily to nationalistic themes then PES does. So say that we run primaries in the parties and then a French-style two-step election. EPP and PES ends up with one candidate each. Would then the EPP be better at PES in whipping up support for their foreigner in all other countries?

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 05:41:51 AM EST
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"Vote for Merkel or the pinko commie lefties will eat your babies and take your freedoms away" would work wonders with conservative voters.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 05:51:57 AM EST
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Right, and the EPP would try to compensate that by agreeing on a candidate from a country there is not much nationalistic feeling against. Definitely not a German and not Napoleon Bonsai either. The smaller the country the better.
by Katrin on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 06:00:09 AM EST
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But it wasn't the Commission presidency Blair wanted - it was the presidency of the European Council.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 11:32:04 AM EST
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Blair sooo wanted van Rompuy's job.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 04:35:14 AM EST
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I'm glad we opposed him for it.

I'm not so glad about who we got in exchange.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 11:33:06 AM EST
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At least there would be one election that would be about Europe.

Though I think it would suffice to have the parliament appoint the Commission President in accordance with normal parliamentary rules, that is each party (or party group in EP-lingo) makes clear from the start who their candidate is and who their potential coalition partners are. This could also be accomplished without changes, just declare the candidates, run them on the posters and vote against alternatives the Council might churn out while de-crying how the Council tries to circumvent the democratic vote. Eventually, this would give the Council more of a royal/speaker role in the appointment process.

Who would win is a lot about the system. If Blair run, not-Blair would have a lot of votes for free.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 05:35:22 AM EST
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Their site seems to be down right now.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2012 at 12:33:22 PM EST
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