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There is a german children song warning of the dangers of coffee - the turkish draught - and admonishing the children not to be like musulmans.

That said americans have no coffee culture so real men don't drink starbucks or other american abominations soling the name of coffee.

by IM on Tue Nov 27th, 2012 at 02:57:11 PM EST
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It does't seem to have worked. There are already 150 Starbucks branches in Germany and they are planning to expand to 1000.

Italy, on the other hand, has still kept them out.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Nov 27th, 2012 at 03:01:02 PM EST
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the italian like the austrian coffee tradition is of course much stronger.

I blame all these pc people who have suppressed this important educational song. In my childhood there wasn't any of this starbuck.

by IM on Tue Nov 27th, 2012 at 03:08:58 PM EST
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Austria has given in too. There's even one directly across from the Hotel Sacher.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Nov 27th, 2012 at 03:11:18 PM EST
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The fall of western civilization is near. The Kaffeehaus is the center of austrian culture, launching important people like Herzl and Hitler and...

Anyway, something must be done. The EU should intervene.

by IM on Tue Nov 27th, 2012 at 03:16:39 PM EST
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Well, the Italians invented espresso, right, which is what Starbucks claims to sell. So I suppose it makes sense for the originators to try to keep control of their product, like France did with her grapevines...well, except for America saving that whole industry...so it will probably be a while until you can get a good coffee in Milan or wherever...or at least until Starbucks decides to change marketing strategy and open some stores in Italy...

http://innovationzen.com/blog/2007/01/15/why-starbucks-is-not-present-in-italy/

by asdf on Tue Nov 27th, 2012 at 04:43:09 PM EST
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You can get good coffee in Milan at any hour, any place. You do not get coffee at Starbucks. You get a brew couched in American baby talk and free internet.

McDonald's is just as good.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Tue Nov 27th, 2012 at 04:55:11 PM EST
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I was surprised there weren't at least a few starbucks in the more touristy places in Italy - then I took note that coffee drinks in Italy cost about 60% of what you'd pay at sbux.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Nov 27th, 2012 at 05:20:15 PM EST
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It's not Star-bucks for nothing.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:31:29 AM EST
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Star-five-bucks.
by asdf on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 09:33:50 AM EST
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Germans are not dissuaded by the name?

Starb-ucks? Drink it and die?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 10:12:23 AM EST
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Du café, du café,
Ne bois pas tant de café.
La boisson des Turcs n'est pas pour les enfants,
Elle te rend pâle, faible et languissant.
Tu n'es pas musulman
Et tu peux t'en passer.

Carl Gottlieb Hering (1766-1853)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 04:39:24 AM EST
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