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University of Florida Eliminates Computer Science Department, Increases Athletic Budgets.

The University of Florida announced this past week that it was dropping its computer science department, which will allow it to save about $1.7 million.  The school is eliminating all funding for teaching assistants in computer science, cutting the graduate and research programs entirely, and moving the tattered remnants into other departments.

Meanwhile, the athletic budget for the current year is $99 million, an increase of more than $2 million from last year.  The increase alone would more than offset the savings supposedly gained by cutting computer science.



Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:24:43 PM EST
First things first!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:28:00 PM EST
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Who needs computers when you can have repetitive concussion ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:29:43 PM EST
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I knew something had to explain Republican politics.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:44:27 PM EST
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The US is an intellectual abyss...and don't you forget it!
by ElaineinNM on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:51:06 PM EST
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Talking of Florida and intellectual abysses, where's Drew ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:54:27 PM EST
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Probably being pulled down into the abyss by the tentacle of a deposition, but he will surface again soon. He is a native. They know how to plumb the depths of the abyss.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 03:32:51 PM EST
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Is it really an abyss if you don't know a non-abyss?  I am a native after all.

Anyway, I responded below.  I'm afraid Forbes bs'ed you guys on this one.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 07:58:41 PM EST
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Plenty of room in CA for hardworking intelligent folks.

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:13:32 PM EST
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My brother was pre-med at a college in Louisiana from 1969 to 1972, and they didn't have enough money to supply sufficient test tubes in the science labs, but they could spend thousands of dollars every week getting the marching band uniforms dry-cleaned for the football games.  So this is a long-established priority and explains a lot about the U S of A.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:37:00 PM EST
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I can't believe you're going to make me defend those inbred, shit-kicking yokels down the road, but the story is nonsense.

A few points:

(1) These are two separate budgets.  Money isn't taken from the GR fund and put in the proprietary athletic fund.  Especially not at a massive powerhouse football school like UF.

(2) Computer science is not being eliminated at UF.  It's being merged into the engineering school.

(3) The Gators make obscene amounts of money on their athletics department -- so much so that they're a net contributor to the school's general revenue fund.  The entire Dept of Athletics has a budget of $99m.  UF makes a lot more than that on football alone via ticket sales and merchandise (and that's not getting into Booster cash).

The university just raised ticket prices -- not easy for a school whose football team (the main money-maker) is garbage right now -- and threw another $6m into the general revenue fund.  They're thrown something like $60m into the general revenue fund over the last few decades.

The athletic department is a huge benefit to UF.

Note the source here: Forbes, whose darling governor is the one that slashed the CS budget.  People should be ripping on Rick Scott for slashing the university budgets, not at the athletic department.  There are plenty of good examples of wasteful athletic departments, but UF's ain't one of them.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 07:47:46 PM EST
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Forbes on their favourite governor:
Meanwhile, just two days ago, Florida governor Rick Scott approved the creation of a brand-new public university, Florida Polytechnic University, to be located near the city of Tampa.  In an unintentionally ironic statement, Gov. Scott said
"At a time when the number of graduates of Florida's universities in the STEM [science, technology, engineering, and mathematics] fields is not projected to meet workforce needs, the establishment of Florida Polytechnic University will help us move the needle in the right direction."
Heads up, Gov. Scott: no one is going to believe that you're supporting technical education when your flagship university is eliminating its Computer Science Department. Since cutting support for universities seems to be a major agenda item for you and the legislature, why stop at 30%?  With just a bit more cutting, you could get rid of those annoying universities entirely.  Let the rest of the country worry about higher education! Florida can focus on orange groves and golf courses. Oh, and football.


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 02:19:38 AM EST
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Ok, so it's just regular old stir-the-pot stuff.

Also, don't blame us for the golf courses.  The idiot Northerners and Lesser Southerners (ex: Alabamans) are the ones who like that crap.

As for orange groves and football, look, we have comparative advantages in both.  

Also, too, Salzberg is a bitter Marylander.  Stupid turtles can't balance their books, because their fanbase sucks.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 05:55:00 AM EST
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...adding:

Let me also point out that the very blog Forbes cites for its weasel paragraph has noted that Forbes is full of shit and places the blame where it's deserved.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 08:18:02 PM EST
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