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"lurches even further to the right"

I dont think so, he got the right now it is time for him to get the center.

by the way with this Lepen surprise, I am wondering if those calls i read lately on Eurotrib for more proportionality in the parliament will continue to be voiced LOL  ;-)

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:27:04 AM EST
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fredouil:
he got the right

The FN got a big chunk of the right, and those votes are not going to come to Sarko easily.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:35:33 AM EST
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yes but he is not competing with Holland for FN votes on who is the most right wing.The undecided voters are likely to be found in the center.
by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:23:35 AM EST
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For FN voters he is competing with abstention. I think that's a much bigger circle of undecided voters.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:25:04 AM EST
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According to the polls, he will only get 50% of the Le Pen voters. 20% will go to Hollande and 30% will stay home. To get the absentees alone to vote for him will be a challenge.
by IM on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:30:27 AM EST
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Surely the right would prefer Sarko to Hollande. It's usually the left that considers their ideological neighbour the worse enemy

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:46:26 AM EST
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Sarkozy stole the FN's electorate in 2007. Now comes payback.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 07:41:38 AM EST
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The way to fight extremes is to give people little reason to vote for them, not to prevent a democratic choice.

If you want to go against democracy, there are arguments for them, but then state it plainly.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:39:34 AM EST
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I personally would prefer far-right parties in FPTP countries (Britain's BNP too) to lose their argument of being shut out by the election system and show the incompetent and just as corrupt nature of their cadre when elected in a proportional system.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:05:13 AM EST
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BTW, I take you were a Le Pen voter; I'm curious about your second round preferences.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:23:57 AM EST
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no I dont even vote, I dont care enough for it and voting Lepen is now pointless, it s 30-40 years too late (amazing how Lepen daddy was spot on then).

If Sarko manages to pull it off this time, Marine will enjoy her 2017 ride with no incumbent, look like she is the most popular with the 18-15 yo.

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 08:18:22 PM EST
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Not surprised you don't vote. Fits perfectly with the rest of your sense of civic responsibility.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 01:15:33 AM EST
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Right up Franco's alley: do like me, don't get into politics

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 02:11:46 AM EST
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LOL

I fortunately do not live in France ( i enjoy my beach life in Australia) anymore it is not honest for me to vote as I do not pay tax there nor bear any consequences of my vote.

And I dont care much anymore of what s left of Europe/France, that s also true.

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 02:31:19 AM EST
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Casse-toi pov' con.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 02:47:25 AM EST
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I dont care much anymore of what s left of Europe/France

You wouldn't be commenting here if that were true. And you wouldn't issue 100% baseless attacks against foreign students of French universities.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 02:54:47 AM EST
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