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Byebye Mr. Röttgen: declares it "my loss", resigns as NRW party chief. New party chief to be elected next month.

Die Linke are out. Are constant internal battles a genetic disease of lefty parties?

99 seats for Red-Green. 91 for the majority.

by epochepoque on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:22:46 PM EST
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The SPD has probably won some votes back from the left. I also think they have lost some votes to the Pirates. ~7% now seems to be the new normal for the Pirates.
by IM on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:36:03 PM EST
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what was going on in Die Linke?
by rootless2 on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:37:35 PM EST
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Internal battles. However, IMHO the final result was more the Pirate Party effect: protest voters moved on, especially after seeing polls showing Pirates in and Left Party out.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:45:38 PM EST
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Die Linke was butchered by the Pirates and probably the SPD. Polls predicted a close result, and said if Die Linke would be over 5%, there would be no majority for SPD and Greens. This will have influenced many voters, I guess.
by Katrin on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:46:05 PM EST
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The Linke in the west is in many aspects quite young. It ahas attracted a lot of people who you would call - rightly, in this case - sectarians. Riding the wave  of the Left on the federal level they barely made it into the state parliament last time. And interpreted this result in NRW as license to live out their sectarian impulses.
by IM on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:46:27 PM EST
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And how will Rösler act now? I expect him (and his minions) to become even more emboldened and aggressive (and thus destructive).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:39:38 PM EST
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No. Clearly this isn't Rösler's success.
by Katrin on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:43:51 PM EST
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When did a politician refrain from owning someone else's success?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:46:34 PM EST
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When the polls are unambiguous? Rösler has become a liability. I expect some people in his party will tell him that.
by Katrin on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:50:25 PM EST
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Missed this:

Parteien: Genscher: Lindner ist ,,Mann der Zukunft" in der FDP - Deutschland - FOCUS Online - NachrichtenParties: Genscher: Lindner is the man of the future in the FDP - Germany - FOCUS Online - News

Huh. Lindner after Rösler? Would a Lindner bubble burst fast too, maybe that would be a good thing...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 01:00:40 PM EST
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Genscher, yes. Wasn't Möllemann his protege too?
by epochepoque on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 01:01:50 PM EST
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He was.
by IM on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 01:08:10 PM EST
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The FDP will be emboldened, but at the same time, because this wasn't Röslers success, their leadership crisis will go on.

Greens and SPD on the other hand are for once in the comfortable position that both have won.

by IM on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:48:29 PM EST
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The FDP will be emboldened, but at the same time, because this wasn't Röslers success, their leadership crisis will go on.

And thus panic mode will go on, too. And I'd expect Rösler to argue against his detractors that his recent initiatives and confrontation with the CDU did play a role in the successes (I don't think it did, but he can claim it anyway).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 12:52:06 PM EST
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Sigh. Watching ZDF now; just as I expected, Rösler just declared something to the tune that 'if we stick to our values and defend it against all headwinds then we will be successful'. So I expect more uncompromising behaviour for exampe in the arbitration over the feed-in law revision.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 01:13:05 PM EST
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Are constant internal battles a genetic disease of lefty parties?

Something about herding cats?

Now where are we going and what's with the handbasket?

by budr on Sun May 13th, 2012 at 01:03:58 PM EST
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