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Greek leftist Alexis Tsipras delivers 'message of friendship' to Germans | Business | The Guardian

The leader of Greece's radical left coalition, Alexis Tsipras, has appealed to Germans to show solidarity towards the embattled, debt-ridden Greeks, telling them that his country's economic woes were those of a whole continent.

On the Berlin leg of a charm offensive to win over European politicians, the 37-year old, whose Syriza coalition has a good chance of securing victory at a repeat election on 17 June, stressed that he wanted to work with the Germans to "find a solution to our joint problem".

Following a visit to Paris on Monday, Tsipras met likeminded, anti-capitalist far-left politicians in Berlin.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue May 22nd, 2012 at 03:07:02 PM EST
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I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue May 22nd, 2012 at 07:17:52 PM EST
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Ekathimerini: Tsipras open to talks with Europeans


Leftist leader Alexis Tsipras told an audience in Berlin on Tuesday that his SYRIZA party has no intention of taking Greece out of the euro and would be prepared to negotiate with the eurozone if it is in government following the June 17 elections.

Tsipras was in Berlin 24 hours after talks with leftist politicians in Paris. In Germany, he met with representatives of the Green Party and the leftists of Die Linke and attempted to assuage fears that his party might trigger a eurozone breakup.

"Our proposal is one of salvation," he said. Tsipras added that he was prepared to "discuss on a European level possible European solutions to the debt problem."

"We will step forward with positions and proposals, we will listen," said the SYRIZA leader, who insisted he wants to keep Greece in the euro. "The destruction of the eurozone is not a natural phenomenon but a result of political choices," he added. "We must not be led to catastrophe as a result of stubbornness or some kind of mistake."



Vencit omnia veritas.
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 04:49:18 AM EST
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I hope he is listening to himself.

Vencit omnia veritas.
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 04:49:31 AM EST
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Why would you doubt he means what he says?
by Euroliberal on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 05:02:39 AM EST
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You two have different ideas on who'd be to blame for a breakup of the Eurozone.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 05:08:34 AM EST
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It could be but I can't say I'm sure of that since we haven't really exchanged views on the subject.

For the time being i'd like a clarification on why contrarian/"radical" or non-conformist views are dismissed based on ____ (fill in the blanks).

by Euroliberal on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 06:07:06 AM EST
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Look at the state of consensus opinion (from a sample of one)
In an hour-long press conference, he was flanked by two leading members of the radical Die Linke, a leftwing offshoot of the party of the Stasi secret police agency of former communist East Germany.
(h/t gk)

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 06:13:51 AM EST
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"We will step forward with positions and proposals, we will listen,"

Doesnt' really square right with the letter of intent, that declares a unilateral repudiation of the agreement.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 04:30:02 PM EST
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Debt which cannot be paid won't be paid, one way or another.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 04:49:29 PM EST
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Why is the acceptance of the agreement (to be precise: the recognition of the legality of Greece's acceptence of said agreement) the measure of listening? IMHO the ones not listening are the Troika who (1) don't want to notice that the medicine doesn't heal but kills the patient, (2) don't care that their demands that had no basis European and international agreements were adopted in Greece in ways that made a mockery of democracy (with MPs not knowing what they voted on and partly giving carte blanche for parts of the legislation not yet written).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 05:03:52 PM EST
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But pacta extracted under duress sunt servanda, night wahr?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 05:12:34 PM EST
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The "agreement" (actually imposition, but who's counting) is insane. Repudiating it is objectively the only correct policy.

If your entire argument for rejecting objectively correct policy is that it contravenes an agreement with the Bundesbank, is it the Bundesbank or Syriza who are the problem?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu May 24th, 2012 at 01:39:37 AM EST
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Press Watch, May 23 | Athens News
The Athens press focused on hopes that French President Francois Hollande may help improve the lot of Greeks by advocating a loosening of the terms of the dread bailout memorandum.   Some newspapers - mainly pro-Pasok and pro-ND - continued to lambaste Radical Left Coalition (Syriza) leader Alexis Tsipras over his remarks about Hollande at a Monday news conference.

...Syriza MPs noted that it was Tsipras' hosts in the Left Front who first used the term Hollandreou and that Tsipras simply repeated it. Though the statement was not exactly the epitome of diplomatic tact, Tsipras' political adversaries blew it up out of proportion.

At the same time, the press focused on Pasok leader Evangelos Venizelos' surprise meeting with Hollande in Paris yesterday. It appears that the French leader wanted to boost the Greek socialists, who are determined to implement the memorandum and try and see if they can negotiate some changes.

Venizelos managed to use Hollande to cut Tsipras down to size, mainly through the pro-Pasok press. Hollande had earlier refused to meet with Tsipras, on the grounds that presidential protocol does not foresee meetings with foreign party leaders. He obviously made an exception for fellow "socialist" Venizelos, who led his party to a historic low in the last elections.

...Another front page story reported that German Social Democratic leader Sigmar Gabriel was stern with Tsipras, when the two met in Berlin yesterday. Gabriel said that if Greece does not fulfil its bailout commitments, Germany will stop giving loans.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 09:43:16 AM EST
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DoDo:
Some newspapers - mainly pro-Pasok and pro-ND - continued to lambaste Radical Left Coalition (Syriza) leader Alexis Tsipras over his remarks about Hollande at a Monday news conference.

The remark was completely ignored by the French press, the only cite I can find was on France Info, national radio news.

In general, it was a pretty unexceptionable remark : noting that Hollande was, like himself, in favour of stimulating economic growth to beat the crisis. Comparing him to Paparendreou can't be that bad an insult, since Hollande is still a firm ally of PASOK.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 10:15:15 AM EST
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Yeah, IMHO the more important news was Hollande's badly justified refusal to meet Tsipras, in contrast to Gabriel. (BTW, while Gabriel reiterated the keep-to-agreements-or-we-won't-pay party line, he also declared that only Greece has the righ to decide on Eurozone membership.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed May 23rd, 2012 at 10:21:09 AM EST
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