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However, Edison was a businessman, not an engineer.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu May 24th, 2012 at 12:55:20 PM EST
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He was an "inventor", and if he was "just" a businessman he managed to pass himself into the collective memory as an engineer.

Though some people accuse him of buying other people's patents and so on. Like Microsoft.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 24th, 2012 at 01:12:43 PM EST
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if he was "just" a businessman he managed to pass himself into the collective memory as an engineer.

See, a successful businessman. Most inventors become one out of obsession or love with some idea, Edison became an inventor because he met an inventor in his quest to become a businessman and realised there is money to be made. Then he laboured hard to find a working idea, and used his first (and possibly only) invention to establish the prototype of a modern private sector research lab, with patent rights for the research of his employees belonging to him. Stealing/buying the inventions/patents of others came on top of that.

Like Microsoft.

Precisely. He was the Bill Gates of his age.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu May 24th, 2012 at 01:21:26 PM EST
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What was Bill Gates' "first (and possibly only) invention"?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu May 24th, 2012 at 04:08:20 PM EST
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I think he can be legitimately called the (co-)founder of BASIC.

And he did write some compilers at one point. I think.

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu May 24th, 2012 at 06:23:05 PM EST
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He co-wrote an efficient(ish) BASIC interpreter. Which he tried to sell, going against the give-it-away hacker culture of the day.

But BASIC had been around for a while when that happened, and if he invented anything, it was a marketing model that turned M$ into a monopoly of sorts.

There are numerous stories about his indifference to code and product quality. So, arguably, the other thing he invented was a 'modern' software business that was more interested in screwing over its customers than in selling products that worked well and helped people.

Equally arguably, he invented a de facto software and hardware standard for mass-market PC technology, which helped make many things possible when it collided with the Internet.

But there's no evidence of foresight there. He appeared to want to dominate the market because he could, not for any more noble or thoughtful reason.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu May 24th, 2012 at 06:41:47 PM EST
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He co-wrote an efficient(ish) BASIC interpreter. Which he tried to sell, going against the give-it-away hacker culture of the day.

But BASIC had been around for a while when that happened, and if he invented anything, it was a marketing model that turned M$ into a monopoly of sorts.

For comparison here is Edison's 'first' invention:

Quadruplex telegraph - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The technology was invented by American inventor Thomas Edison, who sold the rights to Western Union in 1874 for the sum of $10,000.

The problem of sending two signals simultaneously in opposite directions on the same wire had been solved previously by Julius Wilhelm Gintl and improved to commercial viability by J. B. Stearns; Edison added the ability to double the number in each direction.

It was a good idea, but still only an evolutionary step, and the most noteworthy point was how he sold it and what he made with the proceeds.

He later 'stole' the ideas of others by having his lab develop minor improvements upon already patented technologies and acquiring patents on that, then he marketed it more efficiently than the original inventor.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri May 25th, 2012 at 03:05:31 AM EST
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