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But it might matter which citizens get the money.  Many of them might just do the same rational thing everyone is doing anyway and causing the recession -- hoarding the money.  I think it actually takes a government to forcibly make people go to work by actively hiring people to do jobs like building things, etc.  Otherwise people might rather just stay home and wait.
by santiago on Thu May 31st, 2012 at 01:13:10 PM EST
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But it might matter which citizens get the money.

Agreed. This is why the LAST thing one would want to cut would be money to the unemployed and those on welfare. In 1962 my roommate was taking econ out of Samuelson and there was a discussion of this issue. When he brought this up I and our other roommate responded "Give the money to students!" They would be certain to spend it. It would beat Hell out of putting them further in debt with student loans, >90% of recipients would be certain spent on daily consumption and it is educating the citizenry along with improving their career prospects. The current system of student loans is both insane and mean spirited and is counterproductive to the overall attempt to reduce the debt to GDP ratio of the country.

But Steve Keen's idea to directly credit citizens' accounts with, say, $100,000 each, with the requirement that it be used first to pay down debt, if any, would even marginally help the wealthier in society and many of the younger citizens who happen to have little debt could use that money for college, should they so wish. Given the balance sheets of most individuals at present, it is highly doubtful that money 'paid into circulation' via such a method would result in wage inflation as there is a large labor pool to be absorbed before labor shortages become a real problem. Another benefit would be that by calling such action exercise of monetary policy it might fall within the discretion of the Fed and Treasury - QE for the people.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 31st, 2012 at 03:14:14 PM EST
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I was thinking about that and there is a big problem with Keen's idea.

If you give each citizen $100,000 and tell them first to pay down debt with that, many, perhaps most, will use all of that money to pay down their debts because they are underwater right now in a mortgage on a property that is worth much less (many times 100,000 or more) than they owe. So the bank get's their money and they still have no more spending power to do anything. The bank does, but it won't, because if it would, it would already be lending that money out and spending it.  

So Keen's idea as you've explained it is really the same thing as the ECB bailout of Greece idea.  The money is really bailing out banks, not gong to individuals to spend.

by santiago on Fri Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:29:35 PM EST
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Now, I am not opposed the government hiring people and get work done, I have argued for it many times. But I would also like to note, that people who lack basic stuff like food, housing and access to socially important services like transportation and tele-communication are very unlikely to hoard money. So if the government is out of ideas on how to put money in the hands of people who will spend it, I suggest going outside and put money in the hats and jars on the pavement. It will be spent quickly enough.

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by A swedish kind of death on Thu May 31st, 2012 at 03:22:27 PM EST
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