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I was thinking about France, not the US.

Besides, before the 1850s abolishing slavery would have been unthinkable.  Prior to the 1890s, labour unions were considered criminal syndicates. Before 1945, all reasonably serious political parties had (or could on short notice form) armed militias. Before the 1960s, terror bombing and concentration camps were considered perfectly acceptable as long as you kept them in the colonies (today empires tend to at least have the decency to pretend to be ashamed of such activities). Before the 1970s, murdering black people and gays was fun for the whole family. Before the late 1980s to early '90s, fistfights were considered a healthy sportsmanlike activity for young and adolescent males.

So hey, progress.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Jun 17th, 2012 at 01:03:49 PM EST
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I was thinking about France, not the US.

Well, then, the French Revolution is exhibit A in the list of 'the problem was in the implementation'! The Jacobin Ascendency, Deputies on Mission, The Terror, Thermidor, the Directory and then Bonipart and twenty years of 'glorious' conquest of Europe and North Africa. At each step one set of rascals replaced the former rascals and while Code Napoleon embodied many of the ideals of the Revolution, France ended up with a Constitutional Monarchy that limped on until Napoleon II and only gained its footing as a republic with The Third Republic.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jun 17th, 2012 at 04:02:02 PM EST
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