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Did the Federal Reserve Survey on Wealth Exclude the Top 400 Wealthiest People in America?  Matt Stoller  naked capitalism

The recent Federal Reserve analysis of the effects of the Great Recession on household wealth and income was a doozy, showing that median income dropped 7.7% and median net worth fell by 38.8% from 2007-2010.  But that may not be the whole truth - the Fed might actually be leaving a very significant group of people out of the sample - the top 400 wealthiest people, or the 0.0000035%.  

Someone brought this part of the the Fed study to my attention (note to self, always read the section on methodology).

   Second, a supplemental sample is selected to disproportionately include wealthy families, which hold a relatively large share of such thinly held assets as noncorporate businesses and tax-exempt bonds. Called the "list sample," this group is drawn from a list of statistical records derived from tax returns. These records are used under strict rules governing confidentiality, the rights of potential respondents to refuse participation in the survey, and the types of information that can be made available. Persons listed by Forbes magazine as being among the wealthiest 400 people in the United States are excluded from sampling.

This passage describes how the Fed got the information on wealth and income., and I've bolded the relevant sentence.  The Fed can easily get data on the non-wealthy, because the non-wealthy don't have very much.  Most people, to the extent they own anything, have some home equity, a bank account and perhaps a few mutual funds, with most wealth concentrated in housing.  So the Fed researchers can essentially look at homeownership rates and figure out how much the non-wealthy people own, and how much they've lost or gained.  But the wealthy are different, and here's where it gets tricky.  The wealthy own lots of illiquid assets, everything from priceless paintings to private multi-billion dollar companies.  So the Fed does a separate survey just on the wealthy.  Only, as the researchers say, "analysis of the data confirms that the tendency to refuse participation is highly correlated with net worth."  The rich aren't just rich, they are secretive.  And apparently the super-rich are super-secretive.  And for some reason, these researchers just didn't include the Forbes 400, the very richest of the rich.

You might say that the exclusion of 400 people isn't significant; after all, it's just 400 people.  How big a difference could that really make?  Well, it turns out, as of 2011, that the top 400 people in America own more than the entire bottom 60% of Americans.  So this is not a trivial exclusion.  The Fed claims in the report that it has a method for adjusting for rich people who don't respond to their survey.  Why the Fed has just not included the Forbes 400 is not clear, and I'm curious how they adjust for leaving out Mr. Gates and Mr. Buffett and company.  I'll send an email to the Fed to find out.


If one excludes 400 individuals who own more than the bottom 60% of Americans from statistics about wealth distribution...what meaning can what remains have? As wealth concentration is increasing, this exclusion alone could explain the decline they report - and then some. The Tsar didn't let the peasants tromp through the Winter Palace either. Wouldn't want them getting ideas.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 11:55:52 PM EST
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See this.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 01:22:33 AM EST
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there is no les money now than there was in 2007 or 2000 when there was oodles of money flowing around. All that's happened is that the rich, with the collusion of our elected representatives, have captured more of it for themselves

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 03:30:56 AM EST
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In a very practical sense there is also less money circulating. The vast majority of money is in the form of bank created loans. Since 2008 banks have had a dearth of credit-worthy individuals who are willing to take on a new loan, as 'deleveraging' and getting out of debt has become the order of the day. The poor banks and their 'supervisors' are having trouble creating new bubbles that entice the average investor, who now is looking for safety instead of returns. And many of those would prefer to keep several thousand in cash in a safe at home - from anecdotal reports.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 08:15:39 AM EST
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Yes, but captured money doesn't circulate, it sits.

but there's still the same amount out there.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 08:40:40 AM EST
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In the absence of new loans, as old loans are retired, the money supply, (e.g. M2), will shrink. It is largely the cut-off of new loans at a crisis point that produces the contraction.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 09:18:13 AM EST
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which implies that M2 is not a measure of the amount of money in existence, but only captures money when it moves.

As I say, wealth capture immobilizes money, but it's still there. Sitting, usually offshore and untaxed, or languishing in asset appreciation, be that gold or land.

the diminishment of M2 may describe the recession, but is blind to where the missing money went. Kinda like that recent analysis of average wealth in the US which conveniently ignored the richest 400 people, or 60% of the private wealth of the US.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 09:31:54 AM EST
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captured money doesn't circulate, it sits.

A lot of it, just now, as US Treasuries paying almost nothing.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 09:24:08 AM EST
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That I don't understand. The US government certainly spends the money it borrows. You may say that most isn't spent wisely, but it is most definitely spent.
by oliver on Thu Jun 21st, 2012 at 10:30:02 AM EST
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